This is...this is so weird. I'm not even sure if the pictures adequately explain how weird this is.
So, I'm not entirely sure the main issue is going to be obvious, here, but in the second picture, you'll really see what I mean. Her head...is floating.
Seriously. Look at that. She's got a system body, but a mesh head, and mesh hair. If you're going to spend the Lindens for a mesh head, why not just get a mesh body, too? I don't get it. And why, WHY would you not adjust your new mesh head afterwards? The extraordinary mismatch between head skin tone and body skin tone is almost nothing compared to FLOATING DETACHED HEAD.
It's so unnerving, and then I cammed behind her, and...she's wearing a mesh set of panties (and the bra, too, though it's harder to tell from this angle) that is just the utter wrong size. What the hell is going on??
I got a music in my head from long, long, ago and far, far away
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their hidden laws condemn him, they’re so rigid and refined (part three)
So, we were still talking about spiders, right?
[12:03] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx:When the Maitreya body first came out, shoes and fingernails fit from Slink. It was awesome and it gave Maitreya owners a reason to buy things from Slink, so win-win. But Slink got huffy, and changed the coding on their feet, so that no longer works. Now only Maitreya shoes will fit Maitreya feet. The only exception is on some boots, where we're just removing the feet from view anyway, so it doesn't matter that they don't fit.
[12:03] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: There are only 2 types of spiders that cause any kind of serious health risk. Most others will not even bother you unless you are allergic to bee stings.
[12:04] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: I haven't actually bought slink-only shoes in a long time (99% of my shoes are KC, honestly), but my memory is that Maitreya's feet fit slink shoes
[12:04] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: there are a few spiders that are highly venomous....Now I really want to track down art of a venomous teapot.
[12:04] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: in australia we have a lot of spiders
[12:04] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: a tiger IS dangerous. You have to be careful with all wildlife animals, no matter how tame they are.
[12:04] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: ...let's be honest, in Australia the teapots are probably venemous
[12:04] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: hahaha LOL [Mxxx]
[12:04] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: lol
[12:04] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: yes!! [mxxx] just yes!!
[12:05] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: First of all, ALL spiders are venomous.Um...no, actually, no, they're not. Where'd you get the idea that they were? That's like saying all snakes are venomous, and that's not true either.
[12:05] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: most aussies i think are not drinking teaHard to effectively be afraid of something that's ever-present. It gets tiring. Eventually we adapt and accept.
[12:05] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: how have aussies survived where everything is made to kill you
[12:05] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: But only a few are deadly to humans.
[12:05] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: Right, because they're afraid of losing a finger because their teapot stung them
[12:05] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: haha
[12:05] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: aussies are not usually scared of creepie crawlies we have them everywhere
[12:06] Lxxxxx Lxxxxxx: nasty eewwww runs bobbi pins flying in all directionsUnless you get Q fever, Campylobacter poisoning, or Hydatid disease, among others.
[12:06] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: Touche, it's hard to be scared when everything is scary
[12:06] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i like animals. i like studying them
[12:06] Axxxxx Rxxxxxxx: List of australian Animals that wont try to kill you: Some of the sheep...
[12:06] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: ive killed hundreds of redback spiders over the years usually i wouldnt kill a spider but i had children and they were very venomousSeparate hemispheres. It throws us.
[12:06] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: your snakes are bad too aren't they?
[12:07] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: yes we call the snake catcher
[12:07] wxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: snakes are gorgeous
[12:07] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: People seem to think that spiders actively hunt people.
[12:07] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: yes they are
[12:07] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i had a pet albino boa when i was a kid
[12:07] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: she was beautiful
[12:07] wxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i have a python that likes my purses
[12:07] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: I actually get spider bites all the time. Just a desert thing. We do have black widows around here though, so I'm kinda hoping that one of those nocturnal spider kisses isn't one of those
[12:07] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: the king brown is one that is very common and if u live near the bushland or creeks like i do you have to always watch your step outside and keep the doors always shut to the house
[12:08] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: they are hibernating at the moment
[12:08] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: good ole winter in aussie land
[12:09] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: ya we have the coldest time right now but spring is coming soon in two weeks
[12:09] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: Guh, that means we get fall in two weeks. I can't wait, I'm tired of melting
[12:10] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: technically in australia spring starts september 1 but in other time zones the seasons change mid month
[12:10] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: it is always funny when i watch youtube videos from Australia and the people are wearing coats, and i am sitting here dying of heat and humidity
[12:10] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: ya we really dont need coats we put them on when its like 18 degrees celciusTo be fair, this is the blue-ringed octopus, for those who may not know. Cute, right?
[12:10] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: I wanna travel back in time to the days when summers didn't always hit 45c
[12:10] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: it was like 7 degrees c yesterday i was frozen to death
[12:11] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: oh my gawd
[12:11] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: but we get to over 40 degrees c in summer always
[12:12] Mxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Down here in Australia, the poisonous snakes kill the poisonous poison spiders, the killer jellyfish kill the sharks, the crocs kill the sharks, that only leaves the rest of the deadly things to kill us humans lol
[12:12] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: you have the blue ringed octopus that is like the size of a dinner roll and could kill you so quickly
[12:12] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: Right, but it'd be so cute doing it
[12:13] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: Who's a squishy little death roll? YOU are!
[12:13] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: lmfaoDepends on where they are, but yeah, overall, outdoor cats kill a ton of local small wildlife.
[12:13] sxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: lol!
[12:13] Mxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: that's true, [Sxxxx], I left out lots lol
[12:13] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: hehe [mxxxx]
[12:13] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: I am getting freaked out just hearing of all these animals you are talking about. In Spain as long as you dont go near the bulls in Feria you are fine.
[12:14] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: most aussies are not silly enough to go swimming in north queensland
[12:14] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx:I cant think of a single poisonous animal here.
[12:14] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: We definitely hit over 40 here as long as I can remember. Like I'm not gonna pretend I don't hit triple digits
during the summer. But 45 is...new. And really really gross. It's the sort of thing where you open the door and you're just like "nope"
[12:14] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxxx: Unless, heaven forbid, you actually HAVE to go outside on those days. (Also, chat lag so if this message gets delivered before my next one just swap em and it'll make more sense)
[12:15] sxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: well you have cats.....sure, they're cute and fluffy, but they're up to something
[12:15] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: Decimating the local ecology, you mean?
[12:15] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: new zealand doesnt have snakes but they have killer bees volcanos lots of earthquakes i think im happy here in oz
[12:15] Mxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I have never known anyone hurt be anything poisonous in my life so it's not too dangerous down here on the bottom of the planet :)
[12:15] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: Oh, I just thought, do mosquitoes count? I am having allergic reactions to them and they are criminal.
[12:15] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: Like, I love my cats but they have been probably the single worst ecological disaster in human history short of climate change
[12:16] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: Pretty sure things are just extinct now cuz kitty saw it moving in the grassOh, I don't know, there are those who eat scorpions. I doubt they'd do that if they weren't at least a little tasty for them.
[12:16] Mxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: mosquitoes kill more each day that sharks have killed in 100 years. They are the most dangerous creature on the planet, by far
[12:17] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: well in australia our scientists have started irradicating viruses mosquitos carry by introducing mosquitos that cnnot reproduce they are really bringing down the bad mozzies in droves
[12:17] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: oh, feel better now, we have dangerous animals in Spain then. yep, very dangerous. SO there, now we dont have to feel envy of the aussies.
[12:17] Mxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx smiles :)
[12:18] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: there are several other countries such as brazil now that are using this technology to get rid of viruses such as zeka not sure how u spell it and i think the dengue fever one
[12:19] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: we have lots of scorpions in australia too
[12:19] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: mmmm, I woudl say.. sure.
[12:19] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: people dont really realise whenever u kick a rock u can get bit by one
[12:19] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: scorpions are yummy
[12:19] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i mean bad!
[12:19] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: at least the kangaroos you can seeOr, to be more specific, this guy:
[12:20] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: You guys are seriously making me decide I am not visiting in forever!! Not even if I got to see that gorgeous blond hunk of a vet doctor you have in the Divinity Channel.
[12:20] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: the bondi vet?
[12:20] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: yay, that one.
[12:21] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: Hes so cute, but specially seems like such a nice person. Loved when he adopted the kitty.It's Tinder. Lots of bad guys from anywhere are on Tinder.
[12:21] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: there are way hotter guys than him here
[12:21] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: Maybe, but he is like "hot" inside too.
[12:21] sxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: why, did he eat a whole vindaloo?
[12:22] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: on tv
[12:22] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: HAHAHAHA x-D
[12:22] sxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: :)
[12:22] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: [Sxxxxx], he just seems a very nice person, and that makes him more attractive, at least to me. I am not particularly a "bad guy" sort of girl.
[12:22] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx:i am just gonna smile and nod as if i know who you're talking about
[12:23] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: lots of aussies are bad guys lol just look on tinder most there are after one thing
[12:24] Axxxxx Rxxxxxxx: yeah a "slab of bundy" usuallyNot the worst thing to look for. So, started out with slut-shaming and jealousy, then moved into discussion of Maitreya mythology, and ended up in serious Australia dangers discussion. Good times?
[12:24] Kxxxxx Cxxxxx: hey hey my partner is an Aussie, been with him 8 years so not ALL aussies are creeps
[12:24] Wxxxxxxxxxxx Sxxxxxxxx: what have I logged into
[12:24] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: and for all you older ladies out there there is dr harry ....he is a vet too and very lovely
[12:24] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: [Sxxxxx], yeah but it was very funny, I loved it.
[12:24] sxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: hehe good :)
[12:24] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: bad boy doesnt mean creep
[12:26] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: not always, but bad guys do tend to brake more hearts in the long run.
[12:26] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i had my bad boy stage when i was a teen... now i am here going.... "i need a man who can at least clean up his own mess"
Or at least strange ones.
their hidden laws condemn him, they’re so rigid and refined (part two)
Okay, where were we? Oh, right.
[11:45] Axxxxx Rxxxxxxx: depends what advice you giveI...guess that's a good thing?
[11:45] gxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: first guy gave me free stuff was a folder with bikini and pubic hair lol
[11:45] nxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I'm not in the category of most noobs.
[11:45] Axxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i never have trouble giving advice to people they acceptWell, aren't you just special.
[11:45] rxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: when i came into sl, i met a friend and she took me and bought me about 10k worth of clothes and got me maitreya and all lol i tried topay her back and she said no, pay it forward and help others when you canNot really, spiders haven't come back into it yet.
[11:45] wxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: ya have to be specific when it comes to a new beginner
[11:45] Axxxxx Rxxxxxxx: but then i dont pretend i'm ancient and wise just because my rez date was before december 2011
[11:46] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: Depends, some people accept help, I have had only a few get really upstuck and told me to mind my business. I try to then. Better you give help when asked for it.
[11:46] zxxx Mxxxx: hello everyone :)
[11:46] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: hello [zxxx], be warned the convo is scary
[11:46] lxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Hahah, I'd done the same [sh*t]I used to do that. I should pull together a folder of solid freebie places and info hubs again. It's never a bad thing to do with very new people.
[11:46] zxxx Mxxxx: oh ok lol
[11:47] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: language [lxx]
[11:47] lxxxx Rxxxxxxx: oops sorry
[11:47] gxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: easier to just do everything urself and not let nobody hold favors on u
[11:47] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: it's ok. i know words slip, but be careful
[11:47] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I spent my first 6months helping newbies at a newbie hub. I have spent COUNTLESS hours at the Social Islands helping newbies find stuff. I have folders in my inventory(not griefer items) that I give to newbies. Folders of LMs for free skin hair and clothing.
[11:47] lxxxx Rxxxxxxx: :)Yeah, that's a problem too. We're loyal to our friends. Sometimes our friends turn out to be ripping people off. It's hard, realizing that.
[11:47] Axxxxx Rxxxxxxx: hell [Sxxxx], its better than that other old favorite... "my fav retexturer of fp template mesh charges more than the other 11 sdtores using the same template and claims to be original so the other 11 must be copybotters"
[11:47] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: And that is for both males AND females.You're either being sarcastic, or you're a genuine jerk. Don't know you well enough to say either way.
[11:47] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I have used every bit of direction and guidance and have made it work. Yes i was lucky enough thart someone helped me out as they did. But i have learned from many in this group and have found my own way from the time the gifts were given to me. I dont beg, i dont ask for Ls, i dont do what "Most" new people do. I do come from IMVU which is a little like this but this is way better. I have the under 30 days group this group and a few others to help me find my own way until i can find work in game
[11:48] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: one thing i will say too if your noob is an alt dont be uncool and act like you dont know anything and try use people they will not find that very cool at all.
[11:48] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: Psh, how silly. I spend most of my time at newbie hubs making fun of the fact that they're not wearing designer clothes.
[11:48] nxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: In 28 days I'll do a couple sets as a hostess so I can earn enough for a stream and then I'll switch to DJ'ing.IMVU. Sort of like the nightmare fuel version of SL.
[11:48] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: Kidding, obviously. And yeah, I've heard of tons and tons of people who come here from IMVU!
[11:49] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I actually might have a hostessing job. (Fingers crossed) New club but its a foot in the door
[11:49] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Yeah because IMVU sucks, moving on.
[11:49] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: IMVU is horrid compared to here
[11:49] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i will NOT go back
[11:49] lxxxx Rxxxxxxx: IMVU?
[11:49] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i used be part of IMVU years ago.....DJ's, no, but hostesses are always needed.
[11:49] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: If you don't know it, it of zero consequence.
[11:49] nxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I'm hearing that DJ's and Hostesses are in short supply.
[11:49] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: but that was way before i had heard about SLYeah, and had more scandals.
[11:50] lxxxx Rxxxxxxx: uhuh
[11:50] Axxxxx Rxxxxxxx: no [Nxxx], theres no shortage of dj's and hosts in sl
[11:50] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i played IMVU for about a year and got bored... then in 2014 i found SL
[11:50] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: Still, I was helped early on. I feel like most people were, right at the start. So how does that go? Pay it forward? Don't break the chain? Keep the tapes circulating?
[11:50] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Club Penguin had more to offer than IMVU.
[11:50] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: and was like hmm let's try itMost won't, it's true.
[11:50] zxxx Mxxxx: AND... drum roll please
[11:51] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: Yeah [Mxxx], thats what Ive done since I was helped here a lot when I first came in after 8 years of not being around.
[11:51] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: And I have done the same.
[11:51] nxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: But I am told that not many clubs will hire someone with less than 30 days.
[11:51] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: I played IMVU until I found out that I couldn't get anywhere without dropping money. 12 years later, here I am on SL without payment info on file, thanks in *huge* part to groups like this. I love you guysThanks for sharing.
[11:52] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: [Nxxx], no store will get you if you are less that a certain age of avatar.
[11:52] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I very quickly learned SL's interface and file system and how things worked now I make my own tattoos, and have been a DJ and motorcycle track owner.
[11:52] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: When I was loooking for a job myself that was a requirement in a lot of standard jobs.
[11:52] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Aye, even as a volunteer at the newbie hub I had to be 90days old.
[11:53] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: There are other jobs of course that are less picky. Depends. On the job, and if you know the person or whatever.
[11:53] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: They didn't even ask me about it till I was 89 days old and said, "Ok apply tomorrow."
[11:54] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I got a job as a noob in a strip club i rarely had to actually go full nude i made a lot of linden and got a maitreya body and catwa head eventually then i decided i wanted a linden house so paid in but i was able to before that rent a small place with what i was earning and buy whatever i wanted I have my own club now and I handpick people now and then to help out.
[11:54] zxxx Mxxxx: i never knew sorryAre we back to looking for sugar daddies again? Spend the first half of this convo telling the girl who got gifted she was a slut for accepting it, but now you want what she got? Yeah, life doesn't work that way. On yer bike.
[11:56] pxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: can anyone dress me?
[11:56] nxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: What is a maitreya body?No, it doesn't. It never came with Slink feet. It came with Maitreya feet and hands, originally, that fit Slink feet products and Slink hand products. Now it doesn't fit those things, but the Maitreya body still comes with Maitreya hands and feet, not Slink hands and feet.
[11:56] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Maitreya is a creator in SL that makes a body called Lara.
[11:56] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: it is a mesh body that is quite a good deal for the price. there are other mesh bodies
[11:56] sxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Maitreya is a brand of mesh body
[11:56] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: it all depends on your taste
[11:57] Cxxxx Rxxxxx: Noob, Maitreya is a brand... they create Body and clothes
[11:57] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I like the altamura body too and AK heads
[11:57] Vxxxxxxx Bxxxx: There are bodies you can get that are better than your default body. Each one is a bit different.
[11:57] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: theres lots of good choices
[11:57] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Others include, Belleza, SLink, Altamura, and Abbar eBody.
[11:57] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Genesis make nice heads too
[11:58] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: AK and LAQ also make nice heads.
[11:58] nxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Okay, I remember someone talking about Belleza and a lot of the free stuff I'm finding has Slink stuff.
[11:58] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i like LAQ because it is for a younger look, and i use my Lelutka for a older look
[11:58] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: for me because im a dancer i had to buy slink feet
[11:58] Vxxxxxxx Bxxxx: Maitreya is the best if you like a lot of variety and frees.
[11:58] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: u can get different feet to attach to your other body
[11:59] Rxxxxxxx Gxxxxxxxx: i use slink HG and Ga.Eg myself, though i did purchase a LAQ head recently for a more...human look, lol
[11:59] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: Something to note: Maitreya comes with slink feet, iirc
[11:59] Kxxxxx Cxxxxx: I wanted woman not girl so I went LelutkaAh, back to spiders.
[11:59] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: SLink is popular with older members because it was one of the first around along with TMP but, it has given way to Maitreya and Belleza, with eBody gaining traction.
[11:59] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i RP a lot, so multiple looks are awesome
[11:59] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i have found with altamura also you can pretty much wear most things
[11:59] Cxxxx Rxxxxx: i have Similar feet... they are compatible to Slink
[11:59] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: but not the free alta
[11:59] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i got the slink point for ballet they are good
[12:00] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: oh the free altamura can wear most of my maitreya stuff .. but i am not big on altamura bodies
[12:00] zxxx Mxxxx: i don't like the spider one sigma i am scared of them
[12:00] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: oh, i can remove my ridable spider
[12:00] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: so i don't scare you
[12:00] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: spiders are cool
[12:01] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: Or at least something that fits all slink feet things. All I know is even when I use other bodies I pop on my Maitreya feet. That being said, Maitreya does have the best compatibility with mesh clothes for female avatars. Though I did pick up Belleza freya recently and found it's...really not bad. Most of my Maitreya Wardobe also came with options for Belleza FreyaWorks for me, I don't like the Altamura heads to date anyway.
[12:01] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: they have spider pasties at the little bat in the group gifts
[12:01] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i think
[12:02] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: the only animal i am scared of..... idk.... i am uneasy around big cats people say are "tame" lol
[12:02] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: do NOT bring that spider you are talking about near me :-)
[12:02] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Yeah Altamura HUDs are the worst.
[12:02] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: spiders are good luck unless one bites you lol
[12:02] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: That's not a bad instinct. Things that can seriously wound you while playing are probably best to give a wide berth
[12:02] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: xP
[12:02] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i keep thje 2 cellar spiders in my bathroom there so they can get flies and stuff
[12:03] Cxxxx Rxxxxx: for feet and shoes i think most are for Maitreya or for Slink... so if you have a Maitreya body you can use the cheaper Similar feet for all that shoes that are not for Maitreya but for Slink
[12:03] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I have a male alt with an altumura max body i found it to be an excellent hud the free alta do not have all the same options
[12:03] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: when i was a teenager i got to pet a tiger.. the whole time i was very uneasy and watching it intently lol
[12:03] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i had seen some bad videos
Phobias are irrational things. But yeah, this is going into the third part, I think. See you there.
their hidden laws condemn him, they’re so rigid and refined (part one)
It all started with a simple question:
[11:31] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: ok, there aren't any in here scared of spiders is there?Well, there's a conversation opening. Or stopper.
[11:32] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Nope. Im a princess with a twist. GigglesWhat, exactly, does that mean?
[11:32] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: OOOOOOO Just got my inner wolf tattoo. Is puurrttttyyyyyyy"That relay thing"...you mean, Omega? If so, yeah--if it's not a system face tattoo, and you have a mesh body or head, you will need an Omega relay to put it on.
[11:33] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Oh do these tattoos require to get that relay thing? Please tell me no
[11:33] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: well found that i have a giant ridable spider and i don't wanna give anyone a heart attack if i tp somewhereI suppose that's a fair question, then.
[11:33] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: depends on your body, but I use the omega relay for minePish, Maitreya can use Omega relays like any other body.
[11:34] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Spiders are cool though.
[11:34] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: The better question is why don't you already HAVE a relay?
[11:34] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: MAITREYA
[11:34] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Someone was nice and got me the body. Im only 6 days into SL. :-(Are you? Well, I suppose that makes sense. Then yes. You will need a relay to put the tattoo on.
[11:35] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: And no one wants to hire a new person soooooThat...sounds like jealousy.
[11:35] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I have been working with what i can
[11:35] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Ahhh...well it's only 99L at the omega store and it's a worth while investment.
[11:35] lxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Who was that nice?
[11:35] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: okay, not sure then, as I have belleza, so you'll have to open the tattoo to find out
[11:35] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: IKR?
[11:35] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: 6 days and somebody BUYS you the maitreya ??
[11:36] lxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Why dont I find these nice peopleThey're around. They're just not hip-deep on the grid.
[11:36] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Got me the body a head a skin and a shape.... Oh and hairWhy is that the automatic assumption?
[11:36] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I've heard stories like this before though.
[11:36] gxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: sugar daddy
[11:36] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: I dont know, send them my way too, Im still saving for a Catwa. Id be pretty suspicious of what they want out of me.Yeah. Sometimes it happens like that.
[11:37] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Alls i did was ask for help finding some freebie stuff that was halfway nice and next thing i knew i was on a shopping spree.
[11:37] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Why Catwa?Jury's still out until I find a head that doesn't look like Paris Hilton married Kim Kardashian and they're still arguing about it.
[11:37] lxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I can use some nice too, thank you.
[11:37] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: UMM not [Jxxx]
[11:37] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: AK and LAQ are so much better than Catwa.
[11:37] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Cheaper too.Yeah, but here's the thing. When someone is nice and buys something for you, they don't, in general, just toss you Lindens. They'll toss you the things in question. So...if you're any kind of decent person, you thank them and make it work. If you're not happy with it, buy some Lindens, or get a job and work for Lindens, and change into what you need later. Done and done.
[11:37] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Catya head i think it is.
[11:37] gxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx:
[11:38] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Dang well I want a Panzer IV tank, that is only 2000L.
[11:38] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: But im going to lurk again before i say something i shouldnt
[11:38] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: That is a 1/4 of what that combo cost.
[11:38] Kxxxxxx Fxxxxxxxx: so 6 days in sl and someone just dropped over 10k on you? in giftsYep. That's what she's saying.
[11:38] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: But i will add that not EVERYONE in this game is a slutThere it is. The accusations begin.
[11:39] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Try 8k.Because...the only reason anyone would buy any female on the grid a gift is that they want between her virtual legs? Who have you people been meeting?
[11:39] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: Wondering if that person was male?
[11:39] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Lara is only 2750 and Catya is only 5k.Seems more like, they're trying to tell you it makes you a slut. Which, hey, it's a virtual world, if that's your thing, groovy, but that's not the point. You aren't saying it was a transaction for sex--give me X body, I give you an hour of sexy talk--so...what's the big deal? People do this. People do this in RL. It does happen.
[11:39] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: please watch the language
[11:39] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: yikes
[11:39] lxxxx Rxxxxxxx: No one said so..
[11:39] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: So your estimate is a tad exaggerated.
[11:40] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: If a 6 day old avi has a "Sugar daddy" that would make them what?????
[11:40] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: A noobie that knows how to hold their tongue?
[11:40] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i had a sugar daddy when i was a couple months old.They're just jealous.
[11:40] nxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I need a sugar mommy.
[11:40] Axxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i want it too lol
[11:40] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I find that comment offensive
[11:40] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: but it was only dates and spending time togetherAre you sure? Seems pretty close, if not actual, at least to me.
[11:40] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I am 6 days into this game
[11:41] wxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i had a sugar daddy in my first months of this game
[11:41] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: Nobody has actually insulted you at any time.
[11:41] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Months i can understandIt is. Along with rampant emotional dysfunction, moodiness, paranoia, rage for no reason...just roll with it and stay as stable as you can.
[11:41] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Don't worry about the jealousy, [Cxxxxxx], it's rampant in this game.
[11:41] Emilly Orr: I will say that, when I first started, I was working at a club as a hostess alone. Someone decided I needed a better skin and bought me a skin pack--3K at the time, which was 2006. It was wholly unexpected and I didn't have to sleep with anyone to get that gift. It was appreciated.Person's gender confirmed--a woman bought her the things to upgrade her game. Which doesn't invalidate that it may have been a sexual excuse with someone else--I've had a lot of women here gun for me, hard, and try to toss me gifts to get me into their beds--but in this instance, I believe what she says. She was asking where the freebies were in another group, and some very helpful lass decided to really help her by getting her into mesh. This is not some miraculous, it only happens once every generation, story. I hear it a lot.
[11:42] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i try to be as generous as i can when i work with newbies
[11:42] wxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: same here
[11:43] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: at one point i spent like 5K on a noobie because i felt that they needed it
[11:43] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx:
[11:43] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I literally cried when the lady did that for me
[11:43] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i didnt ask for it
[11:43] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: nor ask for Money.
[11:43] wxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: in act i bumped into one in wow skin totally not dressed i helped her use her folder to get clothes onNot everyone is.
[11:43] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: bought him a jake body and a static catwa head
[11:43] nxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Some of the people here have been very generous with me in pointing me to some wonderful free places.
[11:43] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: I have had plenty of gifts from females, most of this group, very nice people and males from THIS group. But the only times males outside of this group have tried to give me things, they wanted something in exchange. Glad to know they are not all like that then.
[11:43] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Simply asked for some LMs to help me find free stuffGee, thanks for being so judgmental.
[11:43] Axxxx Rxxxxxxx: hell, somebody bought me a maitreya because i stayed up 6 hours past my 4 hours too late bed time to cheer the up when they were talking of quitting sl, so they friended me and sent me a tp to mait and handed me the 2750
[11:43] sxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: It's nice to see that there are some good hearted people about, it makes SL a better place :)
[11:43] Axxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i didnt have to sleep with anyone
[11:43] Mxxx Fxxxxxxxx: Are people out there who like to help new people i myself have helped several of my friends and they have gone on to pay it forward and help others not everyone is in sl for sexThat's not the point. Sure, not everyone is, but there's nothing wrong with being in SL for sex, too. But in this situation, it's very clearly someone wanting to help someone else out. Sex never came into it, so keeping bringing it up is just making you sound like a prude.
[11:44] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: when you think about it your crying over someone giving you like five dollars in rl ....I am very generous to noobs too but i direct them how to get things for free and how to find places to work you dont need to sleep with anybody to look nice and have nice things hereMod talking.
[11:44] Emilly Orr: Not everyone is here for sex, [Kxxxxxx]. Surprising, perhaps, but true.
[11:44] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: ok, we're holding onto this "sex" idea too long, let's change the subject
[11:44] gxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: there is helping and then there is helpingI want to roll my eyes dismissively and say, 'yeah, whatever', but...there is a point in making something plain that it's been our experience, that it is not the wider experience everyone will have. I mean, I'm sure there are kind, caring people in Bloodlines. I've never had any experience with one longer than ten minutes that didn't convince me they don't exist, but I'm sure they do. Same thing here.
[11:44] Vxxxxxxx Bxxxx: It's so hard to find people who aren't...
[11:44] Dxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: And most noobs anyhow don't listen to the advices you give them.
[11:45] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: As I said, [Exxxx], I have had plenty of gifts from people who had become friends or known people. Males that I just met, they wanted that. That is My personal experience.
This is getting long, so this is now part one. Part two coming.
magpies, I throw sticks at them, they laugh behind my back
By all the void stars, this was ANNOYING:
[22:59] OM1N Resident: hi group chat is disabled so im using conference for that reason [ obviously] i have a new sim its juts a home but its dark and gothy if anyones interested in joining the group and sim i have avaible rooms and info in me picks tab in me profiles all welcome to come dwell hang out do xxx stuff rp or go ak just dont crash me or anything thats all i ask hope it goes cool and somone comes over n enjoys itBecause I seriously had no clue. I pulled the profile. Turns out we only had one, single, solitary group in common, which is being named as is, because I think it's kind of important this twidget decided to go after this group, out of all the possible groups on the grid in which to pull this nonsense.
[23:00] Emilly Orr: Who are you?
[23:00] Axxxxx Mxxxxxxx: wtfSo why did OM1N pick tonight to do this? I have no idea. Why do idiots do anything?
[23:00] kxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Who are you?
[23:01] Emilly Orr: Oh, you're hassling Candle and Cauldron members over this? Yeah, no. I'm not into Bloodlines, I don't deal with spampires, bug off.
[23:01] Nxxxx Bxxxxxxxx: is this person in the C and C group? i will ban them
[23:01] Dxx Lxx: lol
[23:01] Emilly Orr: Has to be, it's the only group I share with this person.
[23:01] Dxx Lxx: love that Emilly ^^
[23:01] kxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Same
[23:01] kxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: bye
[23:02] Nxxxx Bxxxxxxxx: ok i'll kick them from there, i hate when jerks do this [sh*t]It's really not. Just randomly sending something out to a group whose only link is "we are not Christians"...it's ridiculous. And stupid.
[23:02] Emilly Orr: Three months on the grid, pulling this crap. This is NOT the way to make friends, dude.
[23:03] nxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: What the [f*ck]
[23:03] Emilly Orr: And I'll tell you something else, for free. Offering to rent out your sim to random strangers is never a good idea.
[23:04] nxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Because of this I will make it a point to NOT visit your [sh*tty] sim, and spread the word to others not toThen they pulled the SAME CRAP in the main group, I guess because I'd helped them figure out they still had access. Stupid me:
[23:05] Emilly Orr: Y'know what? I just went back and read the intro blurb again. They say group chat is 'disabled' for them. What do you want to bet either a mod, or the owner of C&C disabled chat FOR this idiot BECAUSE they pulled something like this in group chat?
[23:05] OM1N Resident: hi group chat is disabled so im using conference for that reason [ obviously] i have a new sim its juts a home but its dark and gothy if anyones interested in joining the group and sim i have avaible rooms and info in me picks tab in me profiles all welcome to come dwell hang out do xxx stuff rp or go ak just dont crash me or anything thats all i ask hope it goes cool and somone comes over n enjoys itDear gods, it was the SAME exact message, just cut-and-paste garbage.[23:06] Emilly Orr: SHUT. UP.
[23:06] OM1N Resident: hi group chat is disabled so im using conference for that reason [ obviously] i have a new sim its juts a home but its dark and gothy if anyones interested in joining the group and sim i have avaible rooms and info in me picks tab in me profiles all welcome to come dwell hang out do xxx stuff rp or go ak just dont crash me or anything thats all i ask hope it goes cool and somone comes over n enjoys itSo, what, they're a troll? Definitely a spammer. Stupid. Lower life form? I have no idea.
Back to their 'private' conference:
[23:06] nxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Most likely, they're a 3 month old noob who wasted a bunch of money on a sim impulsively, that will be closed in a month or less. Because every basic piece of shit in this bloodlines cult thinks they can open a club, and they try to achieve it by doing this obnoxious shit.And back to the group chat:
[23:06] Emilly Orr: So you're just a troll, then. With the brains of a kitchen sponge. Got it.
[23:06] sxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: for goddess sake stop freaking spammingChanging the spam to new spam doesn't make it NOT SPAM.
[23:07] OM1N Resident: hi i have a huge sim full region full of gothic builds and vaible rooms to live in for free if anyone is interested info on the group and sim is in me picks tab in me profiles
[23:07] fxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: It's doing it all over the place tonight
[23:07] sxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: ughThey really, really are. THey'd get lost in a paper bag full of holes.
[23:07] OM1N Resident:
[23:07] Emilly Orr: You're an idiot.
[23:07] OM1N Resident: hi i have a huge sim full region full of gothic builds and vaible rooms to live in for free if anyone is interested info on the group and sim is in me picks tab in me profilesSo the sim in question is apparently Duchamp. Avoid it. And block this person, who is not being anonymized, because they're not only too stupid to breathe effectively, but they're a gorram troll for doing this.
[23:07] sxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: there now I don't have to see it lol
[23:08] OM1N Resident: hi i have a huge sim full region full of gothic builds and vaible rooms to live in for free if anyone is interested info on the group and sim is in me picks tab in me profiles
[23:10] Emilly Orr: Blocked.I recommend everyone else does the same.
there's no room for innocence
So...the Sense event is a shopping event, one of the themed ones. It's got some gacha action, it has some special limited-edition pieces, but it all ties in--or tries to tie in--with a specific theme. I think the theme for this one was either "Animal" or more likely "Zoo", which mostly made sense...ah, so to speak...with the setting, until...this set piece.
Was this really necessary? It's supposedly a zoo event. Animals, cages, some people wandering around, okay. Maybe there's implied violence in the running figures, but as they're not actually moving, it's hard to get that sense of urgency from them, right?
But...come on. Even if someone partially ate a human, it wouldn't be a rhino. And even if something else wandered into the rhino enclosure and partially ate the girl, it certainly wouldn't have completely undressed her first. Animals don't do that. They don't care.
This is serial killer porn, and it's just the totally wrong mood for this event. Why? I don't get it.
to deserve affection, to ever be enough for this existence
Okay, so no, this isn't AS bad as that fish-lipped, pouty, spraddle-hipped, twig-legged nightmare that was so popular a few years ago. And from the front this person was almost okay, save for that weird "Hi, my hips are dislocated" spread.
But from the back? OMG. Plus, she was a week old. I don't care if we're on an Adult sim, we're allowed to have rules, and our rules say, we don't care what you wear, but on ground level YOU WEAR CLOTHING, and any active bits are PUT AWAY.
So of course Miss One Week Old came in naked. I told her she needed to change into something, and she pulled her avatar into appearance. For TEN MINUTES. I finally asked if I could help, at all, and she poofed.
So, no longer my problem. But those hips are still disturbing.
to all who stood with me when we stood as one
Caledon is changing! This might be a good thing, actually.
[21:10] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: And Then There Was The Time That Desmond. . . . Oh Hi Des!!That actually is good news. Some few of us were worried.
[21:10] Desmond Shang: hai! :)
[21:10] Emilly Orr giggles
[21:11] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: OOOO the Guvnah
[21:11] Desmond Shang: is writing a group noticey thing
[21:11] Fxxxxxxx Oxxxxx hides the bomb, "I'll work on this when I get back to Steelhead"
[21:11] Desmond Shang: oh suuure
[21:11] Mxxxxxxxx Kxxxxxx: Uh oh ...
[21:12] Desmond Shang: [Mxxx]! :D
[21:12] Emilly Orr: Don't blow up Steelhead!
[21:12] pxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx) looks up from the discussion with [Vxxxxxxx]. "But what did he do with the shaved goats afterwa.....? Oh, hi Guv."
[21:12] Desmond Shang: he might!
[21:12] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx takes the papers and crumples up the notice... "We're Sorry Guv, The World Is NOT Ready To Acknowledge The Secret Catgirl Dungon..."
[21:13] Fxxxxxxx Oxxxxx: Steelhead is safe. Extra safe, now that I got the promotion and pay raise.
[21:13] Emilly Orr: Woo!
[21:13] Desmond Shang: suuuureAh, some traditions never die.
[21:14] Fxxxxxxx Oxxxxx: Well, it's "Steelhead Safe" May experience some explosions, earthquakes, paratrooper chickens, and a turkey
[21:14] Emilly Orr: Who may explode
[21:14] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: Zombie turkeys, on FIRE!
[21:16] JX Dxxxxxxxxx: Eeeek!
[21:16] JX Dxxxxxxxxx: It's a Des!!!*grins* I was thinking that, too.
[21:17] JX Dxxxxxxxxx: Hide the kittens!!!
[21:17] Emilly Orr: But I thought Des liked kittens...
[21:17] Desmond Shang: little kittens grow up to be catgirls
[21:18] Emilly Orr: Yes. Isn't that the point?
[21:18] Desmond Shang: (forgive my choppiness, IM storm :)
[21:19] pxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx looks shocked at Mr. [Dxxxxxxxxx. "He might shave the kittens, too?????"
[21:20] JX Dxxxxxxxxx is wholly unable to predict
[21:21] Gxxxxxxxx Rxxx looks at all the names in chat and grins. You'd think it was 2008 not 2018! ;-)
[21:21] Desmond Shang: it isn't?So, right, that's the notice. Essentially, he's planning on two things:
[21:22] JX Dxxxxxxxxx: Have another drink, Des.....
[21:22] Fxxxxxxx Oxxxxx: Ah, the good old days.
[21:23] Desmond Shang: slams down another scotch
[21:23] Desmond Shang: (which are not to be slammed, generally)
[21:23] Bxxxxx Fxxxxxxx: For shame...
[21:23] JX Dxxxxxxxxx: Suuuurrre it's 2008, Des....don't you worry your pretty little head about that nast calendar...
[21:24] Desmond Shang: the economy is roaring, what could go wrong!!!!
[21:25] Desmond Shang: parties like it's 1999
[21:26] pxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx whispers an aside to [JX] "Should we tell him about Prince?"
[21:27] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: sshh.... let him stay asleep.
[21:27] Desmond Shang: Group Notice Sent by: Desmond Shang
some changes afoot!
I'm doing some parcel changes to Port Caledon... as many of you know, it was designed with a small blizzard of tiny parcels, which worked great when inworld stores were all the rage. That's changed long ago, so it's getting some updating with larger parcels and a greener setting. I just didn't want anyone to panic when they see some streets are ripped up :) No current residents will be inconvenienced!
Des
- First, replacing the old, full-prim trees (some of which were made in the earliest days of sculpt, some few of which were even made BEFORE sculpts were a thing; and
- Reparceling: in short, taking smaller parcels and reconfiguring them so they're larger parcels. So, say, instead of 30 parcels in a given sim, which people can buy in bulk if they want a larger single parcel, he's just making all parcels larger overall--say, 12 to 15 per sim, instead of 30.
[21:27] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: Ripping the streets up now, are you?Yeah, pretty much, that's the main idea. Parcel trees, well, if we really want to hang onto that 45-prim bendy nightmare, on our own parcels, we can. But if it's on Commonwealth land, Des is planning to move things to mesh--less overall prims, less overall 'age' to the look of the sims.
[21:28] Desmond Shang: if I get that far tonight :)
[21:28] Fxxxxxxx Oxxxxx hands [Gxxxxxxxx] and a few others pick axes, "Come on, let's give Des a hand."
[21:29] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx claps and continues to hide out on Cymru.
[21:29] Desmond Shang: I've been wanting to give Caledon a sort of 'not ancient sl' look for a while, and with me moving RL that sort of pushes this to 'do now or it will be a loooong wait'
[21:30] JX Dxxxxxxxxx shoulders his pick axe and marches off to do his duty by Calendon...
[21:30] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: If the [Fxxxxxxx] is involved, they will be 'explosions'.
[21:30] Gxxxxxxxx Rxxx: Well-made mesh can be your friend Des!
[21:31] Desmond Shang: that's the general idea, as well as pivoting away from 'a million little inworld shop parcels'
[21:32] Emilly Orr: I'm waiting for when he gets to Tanglewood, and the big trees change. :D
[21:33] Desmond Shang: right now, priority is on revitalising the port, old Caledon, and Tam
[21:33] pxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx eees! No touchy my willow!
[21:47] Emilly Orr: If it's on a parcel, it won't change. He's talking about changing the higher-prim, more primitive trees along the roadsides, and the train rails.
[21:57] pxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx looks up from chaining herself to her tree. Hmm?
[21:57] Sxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: !I'll need to go wander and get pictures of the new trees.
[21:59] Desmond Shang: hai! :)
[22:01] JX Dxxxxxxxxx: Goodnight, Caledon!
[22:01] Desmond Shang: sleep well [JX]!
[22:01] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: Now We All Know That The Des Would'nt Bulldoze A Bunneh. Given That Then Tend To ~BEWM~!!
[22:02] pxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Catgirl chains herself to something. Des shows up. Coincidence?
[22:02] Desmond Shang: mrowr!
[22:02] pxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx laughs!
[22:03] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: Now Des.. Don't Make Me Summon The Succubus Of Dispair... She Has Needles Just For You, Ya Know.
[22:04] Sxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: The trees going in are lovely.
[22:04] Desmond Shang: !Don't we all.
[22:04] Sxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: [DXX]'s place will have a nice North View.
[22:07] pxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: [Dxxxxx] will bepeaking in my windows? O.o
[22:07] Sxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: ....?
[22:08] Sxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Maybe? But I just meant there some nice large trees and green going in next to her complex.
[22:08] pxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: "...ni North View...."
[22:08] pxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Okay, I'm tired, and my sense of humor is going strange directions. -_^
[22:09] Sxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: :-)
[22:09] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: Perfectly Normal Humor For Caledon.
[22:09] pxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I knew there was a reason I feel at home here.
[22:10] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: If At Anytime You Run Across Something 'Normal', You've Clearly Left Caledon. Turn Around And Run Back!Yes, and that may be another reason for the reparceling, that fewer stores are retaining parcels and moving to Marketplace only. Which is, yes, a very sad thing.
[22:11] Emilly Orr: Good advice.
[22:11] Desmond Shang: it makes me sad that inworld shops are a shadow of what they were. used to be, land was worth having for that purpose, for the regular person
[22:12] pxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: So....if I see something 'normal'.....show it the south end of North.....got it.Oh, I'll freely admit that I've been crankier in ISC chat in past years.
[22:12] Sxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I still prefer them.
[22:12] Emilly Orr: In general, yes. Also, I very much like demos. Stores without demos make me cranky.
[22:13] pxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I like in-world shopping, but its gotten hard to do outside of events.
[22:13] Sxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Yes, Miss Orr, that is true.
[22:13] Sxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I mean, it's true that they should have demos, not that you are cranky.
[22:13] Sxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: :-/
[22:13] Emilly Orr smiles.
[22:13] Sxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I mean you might be, but not for me to say. LOL ;-)
[22:13] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: There Is Value To Seeing A Product Before It Is Bought With Loo... ermm... Hard Eraned Monies."Now". I would add. "Now", I am generally only cranky with reason.
[22:13] Emilly Orr: I am generally only cranky with reason, even if that reason is vague and known only to myself.
[22:14] pxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Like...."existential angst"?Don't feel bad, my first parcel, I did too.
[22:14] Sxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I read your blog and cranky doesn't fit. Observant and ... awesomely biting at times?
[22:14] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: Rage A Little, Emilly. It May Not Alter Circumstances, But It Feels Wonderful!
[22:15] Emilly Orr: I'll accept that, Ms. [Sxxxxxxxx].
[22:15] Emilly Orr: And at times, yes! But I try to behave myself in ISC. ...Lately.
[22:15] Sxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: :-D
[22:16] Sxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I think most of us are in existential angst these days.
[22:16] Desmond Shang: is oddly happy these days, through the exhaustion. go figure...
[22:16] Sxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Whether any of us have elevated it to an artform.... well.... ;-)
[22:17] Desmond Shang: another side effect of all this parcel changery....
[22:18] Desmond Shang: is that I'm tending toward larger parcels, due to the loss of shops, and loss of personal time as well
[22:18] Desmond Shang: the average person browsing parcels, that wants my assistance, can take something like 40 minutes
[22:18] Desmond Shang: about 20 of that is me sort of hanging around while they decide or not, and then, about 50% of the time they decide not to
[22:19] Desmond Shang: which... if I rely on that for parcels that are say 5 bucks a month of tier, we'd be doomed
[22:19] Desmond Shang: hence, the trend is larger parcels.
[22:19] pxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx coughs apologetically, having taken considerably longer, as I recall.....
[22:20] Desmond Shang: no worries, I'm happy to help anyone, it's just not a viable strategy to keep things goingAnd we still can't figure out why, but I've seen other games implode their own economies, too.
[22:20] Desmond Shang: hence: doing something about it :)
[22:21] Desmond Shang: two parcels at 1250 prims is a lot easier to manage, than eight at way less prims.
[22:22] Desmond Shang: and a lot of the community here doesn't have land at all here
[22:22] Desmond Shang: which is fine, and actually good, because we aren't losing 6 people by converting 8 parcels down to 2.
[22:29] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: There was a time when there was a waiting list.. I remember well..
[22:29] Desmond Shang: indeed
[22:29] Desmond Shang: had I filled that list, we would have EASILY gone over 100 regions, then collapsed
[22:29] Emilly Orr nods
[22:30] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: Well.. 11 years and I'm still here. And WELL entrenched!
[22:30] Desmond Shang: I ah... heh. I actually did a bad thing
[22:30] Desmond Shang: indeed this is a good place if its managed right
[22:31] Desmond Shang: Linden blew up the mainland badly, literally region after abandoned region... they destroyed the value of their own product
[22:31] Desmond Shang: they got greedySad, but true.
[22:31] Desmond Shang: it was pretty clear that there was a 'hype' back in the day
[22:31] Desmond Shang: and knowing that, well, hypes tend to fade as fast as they come
[22:31] Desmond Shang: so I decided: let's not own the regions that will fade that fast, shall we?
[22:32] Desmond Shang: and I let a few other estates add dozens of regions... when the collapse came, the residents went from there to here.
[22:32] Desmond Shang: most notably, Antiquity
[22:33] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: Now Here Is The Funny Part... I Found Caledon By Looking For BOOTS. landed At A Shop In The Then New Tanglewoods. And Have Been 'Here' Ever Sense.Eh, he's been around. :)
[22:33] Desmond Shang: did you find your boots?
[22:33] Exxxxx Pxxxxx waves "What did I miss?"
[22:33] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: Yes, She Even Custom Fitted Them To Me.
[22:34] Desmond Shang: you missed a decade, sir!
[22:34] Exxxxx Pxxxxx: Heh
[22:34] Desmond Shang: well I miss the inworld shops, tooYeah, that's actually almost not funny. We're no longer posting messages posed a day later, but several hours later for the same group chat? Yeah, that still happens. Latency is a bitch.
[22:34] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: EGAD!! The [Exxxxx] LIVES!! Hav'nt Heard You In... Years!
[22:35] Exxxxx Pxxxxx: Still around. How's yourself?
[22:35] Desmond Shang: he's actually gone, it's just group chat lag is ENORMOUS these days....
[22:35] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: That Would Be So Very Much SL.. And Was Back In The Day.It's LoveFest. They're nostalgic for all the crippling horrors of the past.
[22:35] Desmond Shang: these are things he said in 2007, finally reaching us now. Einstein and all that, you know?
[22:36] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: I Remember When It Almost WAS Like That.
[22:36] Exxxxx Pxxxxx: I visted the Lovefest on Friday night. I swear the lag was imported from 2007
[22:36] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: And I Do Well [Exxxxx], Yourself??Was that the party with the War of the Worlds "War-walkers"? I remember that one. That was crazy.
[22:36] Desmond Shang: we can call that period when he was around, the Edwardian...
[22:36] Exxxxx Pxxxxx: Badum tish
[22:36] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: I'll Endorse That..
[22:37] Desmond Shang: it's accurate!
[22:37] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: And I Avoid Fair Like The Plague.. I Send The Bunnehs To Them... If They Find Something They Like I Just Send Monies.
[22:39] Exxxxx Pxxxxx: I usually find things on a blog, and ninja in, buy it and ninja out again
[22:40] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: But I Do Remember Foundly The Des' Attempt To Crash Cymru.. That Party Was Crazy Lagged. But We never Crashed!
[22:40] Desmond Shang: we tried!
[22:40] pxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx hugs anyone that wants one and slinks offline to attempt the ever elusive "sleep" thing I've heard so much about.
[22:41] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: Particles, Bling And GLITTER.. Oh My!
[22:43] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: Sleep Well Miss [Pxx].Yeah, I think I've met her. If she has needles for teeth, she knocked on my door once, I opened it, stared at her, then closed the door. Do not answer knocking by needle-toothed floating women at your door, kids. Handy life tip.
[22:44] Sxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Goodnight, Miss [Pxx]
[22:44] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: Des.. Tell Me She's Not Sleeping Chained To That Tree?
[22:45] Desmond Shang: erm....
[22:45] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: Des! You Would'nt?!
[22:45] Desmond Shang: it wasn't me!
[22:46] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx puts in a call to the Succubus of Dispair.
[22:46] Emilly Orr: Oh dear.
[22:46] Desmond Shang: despairs
[22:47] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: Remember, Sleep Well Des... She Does Her best Work When You Dream.
[22:47] Desmond Shang: !It does, actually. Say I decide I want to move back to Morgaine. Say I want my original parcel back. Say the parcel next to it is empty, and the parcel next to that. Before, if I wanted all three, I'd have to buy them individually, and pay each meter, and keep up with each meter. Under the new system (well, and assuming he decides to join three parcels hypothetically like this), I'd be buying in one parcel with one meter and get more prims overall. Seems...actually easier overall.
[22:47] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx Snickers Evily. . . .
[22:47] Sxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: !
[22:48] Wxxxxxxxx Jxxxxxxx: Considers a suck-u-a-bus of disrepair.
[22:48] Sxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx looks over the Port.. It's so... GREEN.
[22:49] Desmond Shang: and 9 parcels fewer
[22:49] Emilly Orr: Interesting.
[22:50] Desmond Shang: a lot of people tell me they hate getting a bunch of parcels, and paying a lot of meters as well
[22:50] Emilly Orr: So it made sense.
[22:51] Desmond Shang: and there are some land barons that think im flat out crazy to deal with anything smaller than a regionWell, and that's not a terrible thing. I mean, sure, some land barons are creepy and horrible, but most aren't. Most got into it because they thought it could make them money, and not in a disturbing graft and fraud sense, but in a, hey-this-could-help-me-pay-rent sense. A lot went in because they wanted to help people, and yes, that included themselves. A lot of land barons started renting land to other avatars in SL for the same reason clothing designers started selling clothing to other avatars in SL.
[22:52] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: And Thus They Rent Land, Not Build Communities.
[22:52] Emilly Orr: Exactly. [22:53] Desmond Shang: wishes for another recession, such that I might have more time again.
[22:53] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: THEY are land owners. Your The Guv... A Benelevant Tyrant. hehe
[22:53] Kxxxxxxx Ixxxxxxxx: one thing i love about caledon...even though i don't live there anymore..i can still visit..i've lived in 2 other groups of sims that no longer exist
[22:54] Desmond Shang: I think a lot of people were in it for the money, so to speak
The problems started when some of the land barons expanded too much, before they were settled, established..before they were ready, really, is the main thing. And they weren't economically savvy enough to realize they were in over their heads.
[22:55] Desmond Shang: when that dried up, so did they. at some point it could affect me too, but I'm strangely fortunate outside of SLYeah, but Des is an economically savvy guy.
[22:55] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: They Lacked Vision Beyond The Dollar Signs.Yeah. It's part of why I moved back.
[22:55] Kxxxxxxx Ixxxxxxxx: one got behind on the payments and didn't ask for help..the other well...rl does have priority and i can understand that
[22:55] Desmond Shang: if I have to, I downsize
[22:56] Desmond Shang: we had 21 regions more than now, at 'peak land'
[22:56] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: Here Is The Telling Point... They Get In Trouble, The Renters Go 'tisk tisk tisk'.... Des gets Worried And We All Step Up To The Plate And Ask What Can WE Do. Big Difference.
Hard, savage truth here: I have a place I can move into tomorrow on the grid rent-free. I mean, if I did that, I'd want to help, but if it comes right down to it...I wouldn't have to. I have another place that, for various reasons, my only contribution is donations, occasionally, if I have the Lindens. And in a pinch, I have a one-room work studio I could live in because I pay L$150 a week for that. That's mostly kept just for clients, but I *could* live there if I really needed to.
Add all that up, that's three places I could live without being digitally homeless, only one of which I'd have to pay anything for, all of which are less expensive per week and per month than my bit of Caledon. But I moved back because it meant something. Because even in my tiny way, I wanted to help keep Caledon around.
[22:56] Kxxxxxxx Ixxxxxxxx: i remember..was the duchess of westmoreland for a while..smileYeah. Between the estate managers, and just the established citizenry in general, Des can leave when he needs to and we muddle through. There aren't many estates of any size that can do that.
[22:57] Desmond Shang: I don't want anyone to spend money that's better spent elsewhere
[22:57] Desmond Shang: it's not going to make the average person happy here, if we are 3 more regions added, or whatever.
[22:58] Wxxxxxxxx Jxxxxxxx: And there's the telling point, the decision of what is "better"
[22:58] Kxxxxxxx Ixxxxxxxx: we would have helped the one who didnt ask for help if he had told us..but he didn't say anything until it was too late..and that hurt..
[22:59] Desmond Shang: sometimes, it's more the time than the money. I've been keeping Caledon through parts of my life when I did. not. have. time. but we muddled through.
[23:00] Desmond Shang: i'll be moving RL in... well sometime between now and the next 6 mo
[23:00] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: Des.. I've Watched You Agonize Over Every Single Region Sense The Tanglewoods.. 11 Years And Lord Knows How Much Sweat And Booze.
[23:00] Kxxxxxxx Ixxxxxxxx: when the time is right..i may move back to caledon..
[23:00] Desmond Shang: and there will be a patch where I'm not on too much
[23:00] Desmond Shang: yah I still wander the regions that are gone, in my mind
[23:00] Kxxxxxxx Ixxxxxxxx: which is why you have people who can help..
[23:00] Desmond Shang: Caledon Eyre was lovelyAnd the trains still run.
[23:01] Desmond Shang: I don't want to ask for more renters, I've tried advertising and all that, and it's basically got me... customers, not Caledonians.
[23:02] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: Caledon Is One Of Those Places Where You Arrive, And Either Love The place, Or Walk Away Never Looking Back.
[23:02] Desmond Shang: what would really do it, is is I returned to forums... but I've had bad experiences with those
[23:03] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: Des... It's Not Broken. Don't Fix It.
[23:03] Kxxxxxxx Ixxxxxxxx: caledon was my first real home..and i still call it home..found it looking for wedding flowers..well the sl marriage didn't last but my love for caledon has..lol
[23:03] Desmond Shang: it's... broken a little :) I have to make sure we don't slide into negative tier, it's still about 4k a month in tier payments.
[23:04] Desmond Shang: well there's still flowers around, though perhaps not all for sale
[23:04] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: A Little Maintence Is One Thing.... But Your Overall Methods Are Still Working.
[23:05] Desmond Shang: yah I haven't got the hours for major changes anyway
[23:05] Kxxxxxxx Ixxxxxxxx: i still take long walks or ride my horse thru caledon..and lately my bat...lol
[23:05] Desmond Shang: bats work! rather gothic tho :D
[23:06] Kxxxxxxx Ixxxxxxxx: my gothic side comes out once in a while...lol
[23:06] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: I Still Pony Up From Time To Time And Run The Rails.
[23:06] Desmond Shang: heheSo, yeah...I know this was long, but I thought it was important. I think these are good changes. I think in the long run, it will be a good direction to take for Caledon. I'm looking forward to the new trees. But the basics--the oddity, the mix of the very old and very new, Des, and the wide variety of catgirls--those things won't change. Quinte Caledonios usque in sempiternum. Rock on, rock on.
[23:06] Emilly Orr: Believe me, I understand. When I lived in Morgaine, I made a full-size Dark Mark and had it hovering, a spectral horror, in midair for about six months.
[23:06] Kxxxxxxx Ixxxxxxxx: that was how i first explored the sims...the trains
[23:06] Desmond Shang: starting to fade fast here, it's been a day of packing books
[23:07] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: My Rider May Have Changed... But The Run Is Always Fun.
[23:07] Kxxxxxxx Ixxxxxxxx: get some sleep des...
[23:07] Desmond Shang: see you all tuesday earliest, monday eve is appointments
[23:07] Vxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: Sleep Des.... She Waiting For You. hehe!
[23:07] Desmond Shang: thunks on keyboard, bye all :)
I’m not, I’m not myself
[21:51] Pxxxx Nxxx: so I IMed them to let them know. because I would love it if people did that for me so I'm not walking around looking funky
Baby, it's not just the hair.
I keep on having this dream inside the static
Heard from a lass I work with about a place.
[14:58] Mxxxx Axxxx: Hi Emilly, You would not believe where I ended up at and I really thought I was going crazy.She gave me the landmark. So I went to go look.
[14:58] Emilly Orr: Really?
[14:58] Emilly Orr: I've seen you on and off the sim today, do you mean in SL or RL?
[14:58] Mxxxx Axxxx: SL, Rl thats another story.
[14:59] Mxxxx Axxxx: Rl. I already think I'm going crazy.
[15:00] Emilly Orr: Aww. So what happened?
[15:00] Mxxxx Axxxx: I ended up what I thought was a Mirror world of Sakura.
[15:00] Emilly Orr: Really?
[15:00] Mxxxx Axxxx: Almost the same setup
[15:01] Mxxxx Axxxx: The landing is the same as ours.
[15:01] Emilly Orr: Where was it?
PARTNERS, the landmark said. "Singles, couples, swingers adult orientated meeting place, cougar cuckold wife swapping, Bulls and cucks adult dating and more. No Escorts. Mama Allpa. Hedonistic, Swingers, Hedonism, Roman spa, wife swap, threesome". Huh.
So, swingers, trios, cuckolding (NSFW link, but some good information), casual dressed or naked dating, and...pregnancy? Ooookay...Let's go see.
Well, well. That's...disturbing. I mean, it's not exact, because we've done some work on the standard Abiss Living Room prefab to make it distinctive to us, but it is instantly recognizable as that build.
That's kind of...blatant, but I guess if people aren't reading a rules notecard...
Here's the first place that our layout shifts from theirs. The room to the right of our 'living room/lounge' space is where our burlesque stage is. Their room to the right is a sort of sybaritic spa zone, with pillows, and a huge, tiled square soaking tub. It's well decorated, don't mistake anything I'm saying, I'm just pointing out the differences.
To the left of their spa room is the Abiss Spa build. We used to have both the Spa and the Dark Spa from Abiss at Sakura, but we ditched the Spa in the rebuild--so few people used it, it just wasn't viable.
There's one more side room.
We don't have this room, and this, I think, speaks to the whole public-sex, wife-swapping, cuckolding lifestyle their club is designed for.
And they're not bad. I didn't test the animations--I wasn't there to join a new social group, and I'm not part of a couple who would want to be involved in cuckolding or pregnancy--but just as a visual, it's well laid out, well decorated, not at all sleazy or terrifying to look over.
I'd say, if you're into the things Partners advertises, it's a great place to join and investigate, and see how things go. But as someone who might be 'copying' Sakura's style? No, not really. I understand why the Blossom in question was thrown, but nearly all of that is because the Abiss prefabs are so distinctive, even when decorated--they're just obviously Abiss work, and nothing we, or Partners, or the various other stores and social groups that use Abiss pieces, can do will change that.
we would sing and dance around, because we know we can't be found (part 2)
(Picking up from the first part:)
[12:55] Emilly Orr: Tastes too good to have rotted, so I vote for alcohol.He went off and got the ale, and brought it back, and handed it over, and things seemed to be going fine...
[12:58] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Hundegutt, go ask Master [Cxxx] if he desires a drink.
[13:00] axxxxxxxx Axxxx: Master [Cxxx]
[13:00] Cxxx Mxx: Yes?
[13:01] axxxxxxxx Axxxx: would Master [Cxxx] enjoy a drink now form this hundergutt
[13:01] Cxxx Mxx: Ale if you would
[13:02] axxxxxxxx Axxxx: yes Master [Cxxx]
[13:04] axxxxxxxx Axxxx: this is your Ale Mr [Cxxx]...and then he sat on the floor, staring worshipfully up at the DJ. Back to wanting to slap some sense into the boi.
[13:05] Cxxx Mxx: Thank you.
[13:05] Sxxxxxx Rxxxx smiles up at Thor, sprawled on the floor[Sxxxxxx], at least, was dancing, and had a reason to be on the grass by [Txxx].
[13:05] Cxxx Mxx accepts the ale and takes a swallowBetter than him sitting at the DJ's feet, waiting for a scrap of any kind of attention.
[13:05] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx grins.. watching [Sxxxxxx] dancing
[13:06] axxxxxxxx Axxxx: watches Master [Cxxx] drink and sip his ale
[13:06] Sxxxxxx Rxxxx wraps her hand around the back of [Txxx]'s knee using him for the leverage to stand
[13:06] axxxxxxxx Axxxx: this slave hundegutt hopes that Master [Cxxx] likes his ale
[13:07] Emilly Orr peers over, ponders, and finally sighs.
[13:07] Emilly Orr: Even thralls in this land are strong, Hundegutt.
[13:07] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx looks at Hundegutt
[13:08] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Get back to work, worthless boy!
[13:10] axxxxxxxx Axxxx: worthless boy gets back to work
[13:10] Emilly Orr watches the sheep fly away and wonders if there's something in the water.Seriously, at that moment, the sheep literally just floated off into the ether, spun around in the sky, then *poof* sheep was back on the ground. Weirdness.
[13:10] Emilly Orr: Oh, good, you're back.
[13:11] Cxxx Mxx: Just keeping him away from the fire
[13:11] Emilly Orr: Oh, was being gently teased about not being at their event in another group, and I was saying I'd have to change out of Viking if I left. Someone IMed me, saying she loves 'historical RP". I tossed her the welcome center lm.Because, as has been said, we're still trying to grow the sim.
[13:13] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Well done
[13:13] axxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx wanders over to the bar area and refills his horn, turning back, he raises his horn "Thank you for your hospitality Jarl [Txxx] skál"I don't know if it'll show up in the published blog, but the spacing in chat was just strange with [ala]'s lines, and seemed to have no earthly purpose I could understand.
[13:13] axxxxxxxx Axxxx: worthless boy watches
[13:14] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Welcome [Vxxxxxx], King of Birka
[13:14] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: and Lady [Sxxxx]
[13:14] Vxxxxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: thank you!
[13:14] Emilly Orr: Welcome to you both
[13:14] axxxxxxxx Axxxx: welcome to the home of Jarl [Rxxxxxxxxx] Master [Vxxxxxx]
[13:14] Sxxxxxx Rxxxx smiles at the newcomer who brushed against herGaaaaah.
[13:14] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: There are dance balls over the fire
[13:14] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: and in the floor
[13:14] axxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx waves to [Vxxxxxx] "Heilsa [Vxxxxxx], how are you?"
[13:16] Vxxxxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: Verið heilir everyone! thanks all for the welcomes!
[13:16] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Hundegutt you can still dance too
[13:17] axxxxxxxx Axxxx: Hundegutt thanks my holy my Jarl
At this point, because we had new people, I moved over to one side, closer to [axx], to give them room.
[13:20] axxxxxxxx Axxxx: welcome miss EmilyI won't lie, it was making me twitch, the utter, craven, I-have-no-personality-I-am-just-holes-to-use submissiveness.
[13:21] Emilly Orr looks over her shoulder and smiles.
[13:21] Emilly Orr: I have been here since before this dance began, Hundegutt.
[13:22] axxxxxxxx Axxxx: yes i do remember yes so sorry
[13:22] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Be strict with himI was trying.
[13:22] sxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Veridh heillir!I was trying, very hard, to keep on the near side of the line of 'instructive criticism', over 'sneering contempt for humiliation's sake', because...I didn't want to help with that. It's not healthy.
[13:22] Emilly Orr: You also do not need to apologize unless you actually do a wrong to one of us.
[13:22] KA Bouncing Sheep Tip Jar: ŢĥɑʼnĶ ŶδŲ Ŧδɍ ţɦȼ ℒiʼnɗȼʼn ℒℴѵℯ [Sxxxxxx Rxxxx] , îţ îş ℳücĥ Ѧρρяєcîɑţєɗ, ℳÜ∀Ħ ҳღҳღ ;)
[13:23] Cxxx Mxx: Thank you [Sxxxxxx]!
[13:23] axxxxxxxx Axxxx: yes Miss Emilly it understands . it will try not to do anything wrong .....and be good boy
[13:23] Emilly Orr growls.
[13:23] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Welcome, [Bxxxxxx]
[13:23] Emilly Orr: You are not an IT.
[13:24] Sypha (syphabelmont): Vertu Heil, [Bxx]!
[13:24] txxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Hello [Txxxxxxx]
[13:24] Emilly Orr: Welcome, [Bxxxxxx]!
[13:24] txxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Hello [Sxxxx]!
[13:24] axxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx waves "Heilsa [Bxxxxxx]"
[13:24] axxxxxxxx Axxxx: so sorry Emily if I said a wrong thing
[13:24] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Welcome to Thorvaldshavn, [Bxxxxxx]
[13:25] Vxxxxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: vertu heil [Bxxxxxx]!
[13:25] txxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Heil [Vxxxxxx]
[13:25] Cxxx Mxx: Welcome [Bxxxxxx]
[13:25] Emilly Orr sighs a bit.
[13:25] txxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx whispers: Heilsa [Cxxx]!
[13:26] txxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Heilsa [Cxxx]!
[13:26] Emilly Orr: You come from a different place, and all cultures should be honored. But here, we are people of the land, of the gods, strong with the forging of the seasons. We are not "it". Not even our livestock we refer to as "it".
[13:27] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx smiles at Emilly, nodding with approval
[13:27] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: "Listen and learn, Hundegutt.."
[13:27] axxxxxxxx Axxxx: yes Emily hundergutt understands
[13:28] axxxxxxxx Axxxx: all life is important
[13:28] Emilly Orr: Good. You are allowed to be a person, here. You are a person.
[13:28] Emilly Orr: Yes.
[13:28] Emilly Orr: I'm trying, I so want to be snarky. :)Me too. Which again, isn't a feeling--at least in me--that brings on major sexy times. Pity just makes me want to wrap [axx] up in a blanket, and offer some hot chocolate, and then go far, far away and never return. Not exactly the best reaction.
[13:28] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I understand... he yearns for attention..
[13:29] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I kind of feel sorry in a way for him
[13:29] sxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Chuckles and pets [Vxxxxxx]'s beard. "- Didn't know you're so great dancer, my King!"Did I smile because I think [axx] really understood? No, that was one of my social, I-don't-know-what-else-to-say smiles.
[13:30] axxxxxxxx Axxxx: a person yes a person thank you Emily
[13:30] Emilly Orr smiles
[13:31] Emilly Orr: Profile paints something pretty dark. Started off as female, slapped into Gor, then slapped into a BBC club, it sounds like, where he was just another little white slut for black guys.And that's the hard part. Look, I am not kink-shaming here. We all get turned on, some of us get turned on by specifics, as long as it's not hurting anyone who's not on board with being hurt, great, fine, go have fun. But. Seeking self-damage goes into the category of "direct harm". And when it's someone seeking to be humiliated, damaged, demeaned, because they think they deserve it, because they really, truly think they're worthless...yeah, that's abusive. Even if they're abusing themselves, it's not right.
[13:34] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Yes, true
[13:36] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: he craves the attention and won't stop putting himself down
[13:36] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: we work around it
Later:
[13:37] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Everyone welcome our friends from Birka, once moreAll DJs do, and all DJs appreciate being tipped for their work. It's not easy.
[13:37] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: extend our best hospitality
[13:37] Vxxxxxxxxxx Vxxxxxx: thank you thank you!
[13:37] Emilly Orr: We are honored that you join us in the dance.
[13:38] Cxxx Mxx: Thanks You [Vxxxxxx]!
[13:38] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Remember that Master [Cxxx] works for tips..
[13:38] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: be generous
[13:39] sxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Thank you all for the kindness! It is a really good dance. Having so much fun!He passed me the landmark to Birka.
[13:39] axxxxxxxx Axxxx: welcome to all friends from Birka............. warm welcome to friends of Birka
[13:39] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: You're all welcome and welcome to visit our land
[13:39] txxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Thank you all very much!
[13:41] Emilly Orr: I need to visit the other sims again. I only briefly wandered through.
[13:42] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Jarl [Axxxxxx] is from Viborg.
[13:43] Emilly Orr: Let's see, I know how to get to Gottland, Midgard, Fyn Island, Thingvellir, Dirdal....I'll have to add Birka to the list, then!
[13:44] Emilly Orr: Good thing my Thane owns a ship. :D
[13:44] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: We have a few landmarks to add to our LM giver in the Welcome Center
[13:44] Emilly Orr nods.
[13:44] Emilly Orr: Very good idea.
[13:44] sxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: You're all welcome to visit us in Birka anytime!
[13:44] Emilly Orr: I need to make sure I have the welcome center landmark right, since it moved a bit. And will have to do that all again this winter. :)
[13:44] Emilly Orr: Thank you!All I'm finding so far is a Bifrost hub group, which is currently invite-only. I may ask for an invite, if I can find a group to ditch, but for right now, it's not an actual place, it seems.
[13:45] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx nods
[13:45] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Thank you, Lady [Sxxxx]
[13:45] axxxxxxxx Axxxx: thank you Mistress [Sxxxx]
[13:45] axxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx smiles
[13:45] axxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx "Have all the Jarls seen the Bifrost yet?"
[13:45] sxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I'm sure King [Vxxxxxx] would be very happy. :)
[13:46] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Nei, not yet
[13:46] axxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: it is impressive work
[13:46] axxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: links all the sims
[13:46] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: yes, I saw it
[13:46] axxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: yes
[13:46] KA Bouncing Sheep Tip Jar: Right click and select 'Pay' to tip.
(All funds go to your Host [Cxxx Mxx])
[13:46] axxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: it's a great Idea should generate traffic for everyone
[13:47] sxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Sure thing.
[13:47] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I love that name, "Bifrost"
[13:47] KA Bouncing Sheep Tip Jar: ŢĥɑʼnĶ ŶδŲ Ŧδɍ ţɦȼ ℒiʼnɗȼʼn ℒℴѵℯ [Txxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx] , îţ îş ℳücĥ Ѧρρяєcîɑţєɗ, ℳÜ∀Ħ ҳღҳღ ;)
[13:47] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Rainbow Bridge in Asgaard
[13:47] axxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: the gate in asgard between worlds aye
[13:47] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Also the aurora borealis
[13:48] axxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx nods
[13:48] Cxxx Mxx: Thanks [Bxxxxxxx]!A bit later on:
[13:48] axxxxxxxx Axxxx: slave Hundegutt listens to the important ones
[13:48] txxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: NP [Cxxx]!
[13:48] Emilly Orr: Always good.
[13:56] sxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Knowledge is powerful, more than money. I also think, as the advice you asked, you must observe more. You can learn lots from nature and people just by observing and meditating on it.Two new arrivals fell in then:
[13:56] sxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: ((Sorry!!! Wrong chat))
[13:56] Emilly Orr: But true, nonetheless.
[13:57] txxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Very!
[13:57] axxxxxxxx Axxxx: [axxxxxxxx pxx] is going to take leave now
[13:57] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: you may go, [axx]
[13:57] Emilly Orr: Enjoy the rest of your day, [axx].
[13:59] rxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Velkommen, [Vxxxxxxx] and [kxxxxxxx]See, that's more what we're used to.
[13:59] Emilly Orr: Welcome, [Kxxxxx], [Vxxxxxxx]!
[14:00] kxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Heilsa everyone
[14:00] axxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx smiles "Heilsa [Vxx], heilsa [kxxxxxxx], how are you both?"
[14:00] Vxxxxxxx Mxxxxxxxxx whispers: Heilsa, everyone
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