their hidden laws condemn him, they’re so rigid and refined (part three)

So, we were still talking about spiders, right?

[12:03] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx:
[12:03] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: There are only 2 types of spiders that cause any kind of serious health risk. Most others will not even bother you unless you are allergic to bee stings.
[12:04] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: I haven't actually bought slink-only shoes in a long time (99% of my shoes are KC, honestly), but my memory is that Maitreya's feet fit slink shoes

When the Maitreya body first came out, shoes and fingernails fit from Slink. It was awesome and it gave Maitreya owners a reason to buy things from Slink, so win-win. But Slink got huffy, and changed the coding on their feet, so that no longer works. Now only Maitreya shoes will fit Maitreya feet. The only exception is on some boots, where we're just removing the feet from view anyway, so it doesn't matter that they don't fit.

[12:04] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: there are a few spiders that are highly venomous....
[12:04] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: in australia we have a lot of spiders
[12:04] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: a tiger IS dangerous. You have to be careful with all wildlife animals, no matter how tame they are.
[12:04] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: ...let's be honest, in Australia the teapots are probably venemous
[12:04] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: hahaha LOL [Mxxx]
[12:04] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: lol
[12:04] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: yes!! [mxxx] just yes!!

Now I really want to track down art of a venomous teapot.

[12:05] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: First of all, ALL spiders are venomous.

Um...no, actually, no, they're not. Where'd you get the idea that they were? That's like saying all snakes are venomous, and that's not true either.

[12:05] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: most aussies i think are not drinking tea
[12:05] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: how have aussies survived where everything is made to kill you
[12:05] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: But only a few are deadly to humans.
[12:05] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: Right, because they're afraid of losing a finger because their teapot stung them
[12:05] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: haha
[12:05] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: aussies are not usually scared of creepie crawlies we have them everywhere

Hard to effectively be afraid of something that's ever-present. It gets tiring. Eventually we adapt and accept.

[12:06] Lxxxxx Lxxxxxx: nasty eewwww runs bobbi pins flying in all directions
[12:06] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: Touche, it's hard to be scared when everything is scary
[12:06] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i like animals. i like studying them
[12:06] Axxxxx Rxxxxxxx: List of australian Animals that wont try to kill you: Some of the sheep...

Unless you get Q fever, Campylobacter poisoning, or Hydatid disease, among others.

[12:06] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: ive killed hundreds of redback spiders over the years usually i wouldnt kill a spider but i had children and they were very venomous
[12:06] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: your snakes are bad too aren't they?
[12:07] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: yes we call the snake catcher
[12:07] wxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: snakes are gorgeous
[12:07] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: People seem to think that spiders actively hunt people.
[12:07] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: yes they are
[12:07] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i had a pet albino boa when i was a kid
[12:07] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: she was beautiful
[12:07] wxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i have a python that likes my purses
[12:07] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: I actually get spider bites all the time. Just a desert thing. We do have black widows around here though, so I'm kinda hoping that one of those nocturnal spider kisses isn't one of those
[12:07] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: the king brown is one that is very common and if u live near the bushland or creeks like i do you have to always watch your step outside and keep the doors always shut to the house
[12:08] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: they are hibernating at the moment
[12:08] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: good ole winter in aussie land
[12:09] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: ya we have the coldest time right now but spring is coming soon in two weeks
[12:09] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: Guh, that means we get fall in two weeks. I can't wait, I'm tired of melting
[12:10] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: technically in australia spring starts september 1 but in other time zones the seasons change mid month
[12:10] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: it is always funny when i watch youtube videos from Australia and the people are wearing coats, and i am sitting here dying of heat and humidity

Separate hemispheres. It throws us.

[12:10] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: ya we really dont need coats we put them on when its like 18 degrees celcius
[12:10] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: I wanna travel back in time to the days when summers didn't always hit 45c
[12:10] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: it was like 7 degrees c yesterday i was frozen to death
[12:11] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: oh my gawd
[12:11] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: but we get to over 40 degrees c in summer always
[12:12] Mxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Down here in Australia, the poisonous snakes kill the poisonous poison spiders, the killer jellyfish kill the sharks, the crocs kill the sharks, that only leaves the rest of the deadly things to kill us humans lol
[12:12] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: you have the blue ringed octopus that is like the size of a dinner roll and could kill you so quickly
[12:12] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: Right, but it'd be so cute doing it
[12:13] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: Who's a squishy little death roll? YOU are!

To be fair, this is the blue-ringed octopus, for those who may not know. Cute, right?

[12:13] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: lmfao
[12:13] sxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: lol!
[12:13] Mxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: that's true, [Sxxxx], I left out lots lol
[12:13] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: hehe [mxxxx]
[12:13] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: I am getting freaked out just hearing of all these animals you are talking about. In Spain as long as you dont go near the bulls in Feria you are fine.
[12:14] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: most aussies are not silly enough to go swimming in north queensland
[12:14] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: I cant think of a single poisonous animal here.
[12:14] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: We definitely hit over 40 here as long as I can remember. Like I'm not gonna pretend I don't hit triple digits
during the summer. But 45 is...new. And really really gross. It's the sort of thing where you open the door and you're just like "nope"
[12:14] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxxx: Unless, heaven forbid, you actually HAVE to go outside on those days. (Also, chat lag so if this message gets delivered before my next one just swap em and it'll make more sense)
[12:15] sxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: well you have cats.....sure, they're cute and fluffy, but they're up to something
[12:15] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: Decimating the local ecology, you mean?
[12:15] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: new zealand doesnt have snakes but they have killer bees volcanos lots of earthquakes i think im happy here in oz
[12:15] Mxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I have never known anyone hurt be anything poisonous in my life so it's not too dangerous down here on the bottom of the planet :)
[12:15] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: Oh, I just thought, do mosquitoes count? I am having allergic reactions to them and they are criminal.
[12:15] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: Like, I love my cats but they have been probably the single worst ecological disaster in human history short of climate change

Depends on where they are, but yeah, overall, outdoor cats kill a ton of local small wildlife.

[12:16] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: Pretty sure things are just extinct now cuz kitty saw it moving in the grass
[12:16] Mxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: mosquitoes kill more each day that sharks have killed in 100 years. They are the most dangerous creature on the planet, by far
[12:17] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: well in australia our scientists have started irradicating viruses mosquitos carry by introducing mosquitos that cnnot reproduce they are really bringing down the bad mozzies in droves
[12:17] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: oh, feel better now, we have dangerous animals in Spain then. yep, very dangerous. SO there, now we dont have to feel envy of the aussies.
[12:17] Mxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx smiles :)
[12:18] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: there are several other countries such as brazil now that are using this technology to get rid of viruses such as zeka not sure how u spell it and i think the dengue fever one
[12:19] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: we have lots of scorpions in australia too
[12:19] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: mmmm, I woudl say.. sure.
[12:19] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: people dont really realise whenever u kick a rock u can get bit by one
[12:19] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: scorpions are yummy
[12:19] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i mean bad!

Oh, I don't know, there are those who eat scorpions. I doubt they'd do that if they weren't at least a little tasty for them.

[12:19] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: at least the kangaroos you can see
[12:20] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: You guys are seriously making me decide I am not visiting in forever!! Not even if I got to see that gorgeous blond hunk of a vet doctor you have in the Divinity Channel.
[12:20] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: the bondi vet?
[12:20] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: yay, that one.

Or, to be more specific, this guy:

[12:21] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: Hes so cute, but specially seems like such a nice person. Loved when he adopted the kitty.
[12:21] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: there are way hotter guys than him here
[12:21] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: Maybe, but he is like "hot" inside too.
[12:21] sxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: why, did he eat a whole vindaloo?
[12:22] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: on tv
[12:22] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: HAHAHAHA x-D
[12:22] sxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: :)
[12:22] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: [Sxxxxx], he just seems a very nice person, and that makes him more attractive, at least to me. I am not particularly a "bad guy" sort of girl.
[12:22] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i am just gonna smile and nod as if i know who you're talking about
[12:23] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: lots of aussies are bad guys lol just look on tinder most there are after one thing

It's Tinder. Lots of bad guys from anywhere are on Tinder.

[12:24] Axxxxx Rxxxxxxx: yeah a "slab of bundy" usually
[12:24] Kxxxxx Cxxxxx: hey hey my partner is an Aussie, been with him 8 years so not ALL aussies are creeps
[12:24] Wxxxxxxxxxxx Sxxxxxxxx: what have I logged into
[12:24] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: and for all you older ladies out there there is dr harry ....he is a vet too and very lovely
[12:24] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: [Sxxxxx], yeah but it was very funny, I loved it.
[12:24] sxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: hehe good :)
[12:24] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: bad boy doesnt mean creep
[12:26] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: not always, but bad guys do tend to brake more hearts in the long run.
[12:26] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i had my bad boy stage when i was a teen... now i am here going.... "i need a man who can at least clean up his own mess"

Not the worst thing to look for. So, started out with slut-shaming and jealousy, then moved into discussion of Maitreya mythology, and ended up in serious Australia dangers discussion. Good times?

Or at least strange ones.

their hidden laws condemn him, they’re so rigid and refined (part two)

Okay, where were we? Oh, right.

[11:45] Axxxxx Rxxxxxxx: depends what advice you give
[11:45] gxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: first guy gave me free stuff was a folder with bikini and pubic hair lol
[11:45] nxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I'm not in the category of most noobs.

I...guess that's a good thing?

[11:45] Axxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i never have trouble giving advice to people they accept

Well, aren't you just special.

[11:45] rxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: when i came into sl, i met a friend and she took me and bought me about 10k worth of clothes and got me maitreya and all lol i tried topay her back and she said no, pay it forward and help others when you can
[11:45] wxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: ya have to be specific when it comes to a new beginner
[11:45] Axxxxx Rxxxxxxx: but then i dont pretend i'm ancient and wise just because my rez date was before december 2011
[11:46] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: Depends, some people accept help, I have had only a few get really upstuck and told me to mind my business. I try to then. Better you give help when asked for it.
[11:46] zxxx Mxxxx: hello everyone :)
[11:46] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: hello [zxxx], be warned the convo is scary

Not really, spiders haven't come back into it yet.

[11:46] lxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Hahah, I'd done the same [sh*t]
[11:46] zxxx Mxxxx: oh ok lol
[11:47] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: language [lxx]
[11:47] lxxxx Rxxxxxxx: oops sorry
[11:47] gxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: easier to just do everything urself and not let nobody hold favors on u
[11:47] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: it's ok. i know words slip, but be careful
[11:47] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I spent my first 6months helping newbies at a newbie hub. I have spent COUNTLESS hours at the Social Islands helping newbies find stuff. I have folders in my inventory(not griefer items) that I give to newbies. Folders of LMs for free skin hair and clothing.

I used to do that. I should pull together a folder of solid freebie places and info hubs again. It's never a bad thing to do with very new people.

[11:47] lxxxx Rxxxxxxx: :)
[11:47] Axxxxx Rxxxxxxx: hell [Sxxxx], its better than that other old favorite... "my fav retexturer of fp template mesh charges more than the other 11 sdtores using the same template and claims to be original so the other 11 must be copybotters"

Yeah, that's a problem too. We're loyal to our friends. Sometimes our friends turn out to be ripping people off. It's hard, realizing that.

[11:47] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: And that is for both males AND females.
[11:47] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I have used every bit of direction and guidance and have made it work. Yes i was lucky enough thart someone helped me out as they did. But i have learned from many in this group and have found my own way from the time the gifts were given to me. I dont beg, i dont ask for Ls, i dont do what "Most" new people do. I do come from IMVU which is a little like this but this is way better. I have the under 30 days group this group and a few others to help me find my own way until i can find work in game
[11:48] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: one thing i will say too if your noob is an alt dont be uncool and act like you dont know anything and try use people they will not find that very cool at all.
[11:48] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: Psh, how silly. I spend most of my time at newbie hubs making fun of the fact that they're not wearing designer clothes.

You're either being sarcastic, or you're a genuine jerk. Don't know you well enough to say either way.

[11:48] nxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: In 28 days I'll do a couple sets as a hostess so I can earn enough for a stream and then I'll switch to DJ'ing.
[11:48] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: Kidding, obviously. And yeah, I've heard of tons and tons of people who come here from IMVU!
[11:49] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I actually might have a hostessing job. (Fingers crossed) New club but its a foot in the door
[11:49] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Yeah because IMVU sucks, moving on.
[11:49] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: IMVU is horrid compared to here
[11:49] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i will NOT go back
[11:49] lxxxx Rxxxxxxx: IMVU?

IMVU. Sort of like the nightmare fuel version of SL.

[11:49] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i used be part of IMVU years ago.....
[11:49] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: If you don't know it, it of zero consequence.
[11:49] nxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I'm hearing that DJ's and Hostesses are in short supply.

DJ's, no, but hostesses are always needed.

[11:49] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: but that was way before i had heard about SL
[11:50] lxxxx Rxxxxxxx: uhuh
[11:50] Axxxxx Rxxxxxxx: no [Nxxx], theres no shortage of dj's and hosts in sl
[11:50] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i played IMVU for about a year and got bored... then in 2014 i found SL
[11:50] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: Still, I was helped early on. I feel like most people were, right at the start. So how does that go? Pay it forward? Don't break the chain? Keep the tapes circulating?
[11:50] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Club Penguin had more to offer than IMVU.

Yeah, and had more scandals.

[11:50] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: and was like hmm let's try it
[11:50] zxxx Mxxxx: AND... drum roll please
[11:51] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: Yeah [Mxxx], thats what Ive done since I was helped here a lot when I first came in after 8 years of not being around.
[11:51] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: And I have done the same.
[11:51] nxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: But I am told that not many clubs will hire someone with less than 30 days.

Most won't, it's true.

[11:51] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: I played IMVU until I found out that I couldn't get anywhere without dropping money. 12 years later, here I am on SL without payment info on file, thanks in *huge* part to groups like this. I love you guys
[11:52] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: [Nxxx], no store will get you if you are less that a certain age of avatar.
[11:52] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I very quickly learned SL's interface and file system and how things worked now I make my own tattoos, and have been a DJ and motorcycle track owner.
[11:52] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: When I was loooking for a job myself that was a requirement in a lot of standard jobs.
[11:52] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Aye, even as a volunteer at the newbie hub I had to be 90days old.
[11:53] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: There are other jobs of course that are less picky. Depends. On the job, and if you know the person or whatever.
[11:53] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: They didn't even ask me about it till I was 89 days old and said, "Ok apply tomorrow."
[11:54] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I got a job as a noob in a strip club i rarely had to actually go full nude i made a lot of linden and got a maitreya body and catwa head eventually then i decided i wanted a linden house so paid in but i was able to before that rent a small place with what i was earning and buy whatever i wanted I have my own club now and I handpick people now and then to help out.

Thanks for sharing.

[11:54] zxxx Mxxxx: i never knew sorry
[11:56] pxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: can anyone dress me?

Are we back to looking for sugar daddies again? Spend the first half of this convo telling the girl who got gifted she was a slut for accepting it, but now you want what she got? Yeah, life doesn't work that way. On yer bike.

[11:56] nxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: What is a maitreya body?
[11:56] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Maitreya is a creator in SL that makes a body called Lara.
[11:56] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: it is a mesh body that is quite a good deal for the price. there are other mesh bodies
[11:56] sxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Maitreya is a brand of mesh body
[11:56] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: it all depends on your taste
[11:57] Cxxxx Rxxxxx: Noob, Maitreya is a brand... they create Body and clothes
[11:57] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I like the altamura body too and AK heads
[11:57] Vxxxxxxx Bxxxx: There are bodies you can get that are better than your default body. Each one is a bit different.
[11:57] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: theres lots of good choices
[11:57] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Others include, Belleza, SLink, Altamura, and Abbar eBody.
[11:57] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Genesis make nice heads too
[11:58] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: AK and LAQ also make nice heads.
[11:58] nxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Okay, I remember someone talking about Belleza and a lot of the free stuff I'm finding has Slink stuff.
[11:58] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i like LAQ because it is for a younger look, and i use my Lelutka for a older look
[11:58] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: for me because im a dancer i had to buy slink feet
[11:58] Vxxxxxxx Bxxxx: Maitreya is the best if you like a lot of variety and frees.
[11:58] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: u can get different feet to attach to your other body
[11:59] Rxxxxxxx Gxxxxxxxx: i use slink HG and Ga.Eg myself, though i did purchase a LAQ head recently for a more...human look, lol
[11:59] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: Something to note: Maitreya comes with slink feet, iirc

No, it doesn't. It never came with Slink feet. It came with Maitreya feet and hands, originally, that fit Slink feet products and Slink hand products. Now it doesn't fit those things, but the Maitreya body still comes with Maitreya hands and feet, not Slink hands and feet.

[11:59] Kxxxxx Cxxxxx: I wanted woman not girl so I went Lelutka
[11:59] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: SLink is popular with older members because it was one of the first around along with TMP but, it has given way to Maitreya and Belleza, with eBody gaining traction.
[11:59] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i RP a lot, so multiple looks are awesome
[11:59] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i have found with altamura also you can pretty much wear most things
[11:59] Cxxxx Rxxxxx: i have Similar feet... they are compatible to Slink
[11:59] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: but not the free alta
[11:59] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i got the slink point for ballet they are good
[12:00] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: oh the free altamura can wear most of my maitreya stuff .. but i am not big on altamura bodies
[12:00] zxxx Mxxxx: i don't like the spider one sigma i am scared of them
[12:00] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: oh, i can remove my ridable spider
[12:00] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: so i don't scare you
[12:00] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: spiders are cool

Ah, back to spiders.

[12:01] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: Or at least something that fits all slink feet things. All I know is even when I use other bodies I pop on my Maitreya feet. That being said, Maitreya does have the best compatibility with mesh clothes for female avatars. Though I did pick up Belleza freya recently and found it's...really not bad. Most of my Maitreya Wardobe also came with options for Belleza Freya
[12:01] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: they have spider pasties at the little bat in the group gifts
[12:01] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i think
[12:02] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: the only animal i am scared of..... idk.... i am uneasy around big cats people say are "tame" lol
[12:02] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: do NOT bring that spider you are talking about near me :-)
[12:02] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Yeah Altamura HUDs are the worst.

Works for me, I don't like the Altamura heads to date anyway.

[12:02] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: spiders are good luck unless one bites you lol
[12:02] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: That's not a bad instinct. Things that can seriously wound you while playing are probably best to give a wide berth
[12:02] Mxxx Gxxxxxxxx: xP
[12:02] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i keep thje 2 cellar spiders in my bathroom there so they can get flies and stuff
[12:03] Cxxxx Rxxxxx: for feet and shoes i think most are for Maitreya or for Slink... so if you have a Maitreya body you can use the cheaper Similar feet for all that shoes that are not for Maitreya but for Slink
[12:03] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I have a male alt with an altumura max body i found it to be an excellent hud the free alta do not have all the same options
[12:03] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: when i was a teenager i got to pet a tiger.. the whole time i was very uneasy and watching it intently lol
[12:03] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i had seen some bad videos

Phobias are irrational things. But yeah, this is going into the third part, I think. See you there.

their hidden laws condemn him, they’re so rigid and refined (part one)

It all started with a simple question:

[11:31] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: ok, there aren't any in here scared of spiders is there?

Well, there's a conversation opening. Or stopper.

[11:32] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Nope. Im a princess with a twist. Giggles

What, exactly, does that mean?

[11:32] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: OOOOOOO Just got my inner wolf tattoo. Is puurrttttyyyyyyy
[11:33] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Oh do these tattoos require to get that relay thing? Please tell me no

"That relay thing"...you mean, Omega? If so, yeah--if it's not a system face tattoo, and you have a mesh body or head, you will need an Omega relay to put it on.

[11:33] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: well found that i have a giant ridable spider and i don't wanna give anyone a heart attack if i tp somewhere

I suppose that's a fair question, then.

[11:33] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: depends on your body, but I use the omega relay for mine
[11:34] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Spiders are cool though.
[11:34] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: The better question is why don't you already HAVE a relay?
[11:34] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: MAITREYA

Pish, Maitreya can use Omega relays like any other body.

[11:34] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Someone was nice and got me the body. Im only 6 days into SL. :-(

Are you? Well, I suppose that makes sense. Then yes. You will need a relay to put the tattoo on.

[11:35] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: And no one wants to hire a new person sooooo
[11:35] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I have been working with what i can
[11:35] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Ahhh...well it's only 99L at the omega store and it's a worth while investment.
[11:35] lxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Who was that nice?
[11:35] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: okay, not sure then, as I have belleza, so you'll have to open the tattoo to find out
[11:35] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: IKR?
[11:35] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: 6 days and somebody BUYS you the maitreya ??

That...sounds like jealousy.

[11:36] lxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Why dont I find these nice people

They're around. They're just not hip-deep on the grid.

[11:36] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Got me the body a head a skin and a shape.... Oh and hair
[11:36] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I've heard stories like this before though.
[11:36] gxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: sugar daddy

Why is that the automatic assumption?

[11:36] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: I dont know, send them my way too, Im still saving for a Catwa. Id be pretty suspicious of what they want out of me.
[11:37] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Alls i did was ask for help finding some freebie stuff that was halfway nice and next thing i knew i was on a shopping spree.

Yeah. Sometimes it happens like that.

[11:37] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Why Catwa?
[11:37] lxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I can use some nice too, thank you.
[11:37] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: UMM not [Jxxx]
[11:37] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: AK and LAQ are so much better than Catwa.

Jury's still out until I find a head that doesn't look like Paris Hilton married Kim Kardashian and they're still arguing about it.

[11:37] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Cheaper too.
[11:37] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Catya head i think it is.
[11:37] gxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx:
[11:38] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Dang well I want a Panzer IV tank, that is only 2000L.
[11:38] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: But im going to lurk again before i say something i shouldnt
[11:38] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: That is a 1/4 of what that combo cost.

Yeah, but here's the thing. When someone is nice and buys something for you, they don't, in general, just toss you Lindens. They'll toss you the things in question. So...if you're any kind of decent person, you thank them and make it work. If you're not happy with it, buy some Lindens, or get a job and work for Lindens, and change into what you need later. Done and done.

[11:38] Kxxxxxx Fxxxxxxxx: so 6 days in sl and someone just dropped over 10k on you? in gifts

Yep. That's what she's saying.

[11:38] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: But i will add that not EVERYONE in this game is a slut

There it is. The accusations begin.

[11:39] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Try 8k.
[11:39] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: Wondering if that person was male?

Because...the only reason anyone would buy any female on the grid a gift is that they want between her virtual legs? Who have you people been meeting?

[11:39] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Lara is only 2750 and Catya is only 5k.
[11:39] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: please watch the language
[11:39] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: yikes
[11:39] lxxxx Rxxxxxxx: No one said so..
[11:39] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: So your estimate is a tad exaggerated.
[11:40] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: If a 6 day old avi has a "Sugar daddy" that would make them what?????
[11:40] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: A noobie that knows how to hold their tongue?

Seems more like, they're trying to tell you it makes you a slut. Which, hey, it's a virtual world, if that's your thing, groovy, but that's not the point. You aren't saying it was a transaction for sex--give me X body, I give you an hour of sexy talk--so...what's the big deal? People do this. People do this in RL. It does happen.

[11:40] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i had a sugar daddy when i was a couple months old.
[11:40] nxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I need a sugar mommy.
[11:40] Axxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i want it too lol
[11:40] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I find that comment offensive

They're just jealous.

[11:40] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: but it was only dates and spending time together
[11:40] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I am 6 days into this game
[11:41] wxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i had a sugar daddy in my first months of this game
[11:41] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: Nobody has actually insulted you at any time.

Are you sure? Seems pretty close, if not actual, at least to me.

[11:41] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Months i can understand
[11:41] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Don't worry about the jealousy, [Cxxxxxx], it's rampant in this game.

It is. Along with rampant emotional dysfunction, moodiness, paranoia, rage for no reason...just roll with it and stay as stable as you can.

[11:41] Emilly Orr: I will say that, when I first started, I was working at a club as a hostess alone. Someone decided I needed a better skin and bought me a skin pack--3K at the time, which was 2006. It was wholly unexpected and I didn't have to sleep with anyone to get that gift. It was appreciated.
[11:42] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i try to be as generous as i can when i work with newbies
[11:42] wxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: same here
[11:43] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: at one point i spent like 5K on a noobie because i felt that they needed it
[11:43] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx:
[11:43] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I literally cried when the lady did that for me
[11:43] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i didnt ask for it
[11:43] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: nor ask for Money.

Person's gender confirmed--a woman bought her the things to upgrade her game. Which doesn't invalidate that it may have been a sexual excuse with someone else--I've had a lot of women here gun for me, hard, and try to toss me gifts to get me into their beds--but in this instance, I believe what she says. She was asking where the freebies were in another group, and some very helpful lass decided to really help her by getting her into mesh. This is not some miraculous, it only happens once every generation, story. I hear it a lot.

[11:43] wxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: in act i bumped into one in wow skin totally not dressed i helped her use her folder to get clothes on
[11:43] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: bought him a jake body and a static catwa head
[11:43] nxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Some of the people here have been very generous with me in pointing me to some wonderful free places.
[11:43] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: I have had plenty of gifts from females, most of this group, very nice people and males from THIS group. But the only times males outside of this group have tried to give me things, they wanted something in exchange. Glad to know they are not all like that then.

Not everyone is.

[11:43] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Simply asked for some LMs to help me find free stuff
[11:43] Axxxx Rxxxxxxx: hell, somebody bought me a maitreya because i stayed up 6 hours past my 4 hours too late bed time to cheer the up when they were talking of quitting sl, so they friended me and sent me a tp to mait and handed me the 2750
[11:43] sxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: It's nice to see that there are some good hearted people about, it makes SL a better place :)
[11:43] Axxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i didnt have to sleep with anyone

Gee, thanks for being so judgmental.

[11:43] Mxxx Fxxxxxxxx: Are people out there who like to help new people i myself have helped several of my friends and they have gone on to pay it forward and help others not everyone is in sl for sex

That's not the point. Sure, not everyone is, but there's nothing wrong with being in SL for sex, too. But in this situation, it's very clearly someone wanting to help someone else out. Sex never came into it, so keeping bringing it up is just making you sound like a prude.

[11:44] pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: when you think about it your crying over someone giving you like five dollars in rl ....I am very generous to noobs too but i direct them how to get things for free and how to find places to work you dont need to sleep with anybody to look nice and have nice things here
[11:44] Emilly Orr: Not everyone is here for sex, [Kxxxxxx]. Surprising, perhaps, but true.
[11:44] Sxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: ok, we're holding onto this "sex" idea too long, let's change the subject

Mod talking.

[11:44] gxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: there is helping and then there is helping
[11:44] Vxxxxxxx Bxxxx: It's so hard to find people who aren't...
[11:44] Dxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: And most noobs anyhow don't listen to the advices you give them.
[11:45] Kxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: As I said, [Exxxx], I have had plenty of gifts from people who had become friends or known people. Males that I just met, they wanted that. That is My personal experience.

I want to roll my eyes dismissively and say, 'yeah, whatever', but...there is a point in making something plain that it's been our experience, that it is not the wider experience everyone will have. I mean, I'm sure there are kind, caring people in Bloodlines. I've never had any experience with one longer than ten minutes that didn't convince me they don't exist, but I'm sure they do. Same thing here.

This is getting long, so this is now part one. Part two coming.