29 January, 2019

my mouth kept moving and my mind went dead

This was a controversy that didn't need to happen.
[09:58] Txxxxxx Txxxxxx: could some of you help to fill the midnight mania board at [hair store]? .. it doesnt fill since weeks :/ and i really want the hair .. also luckyboards here ... for both no group needed
[09:58] Txxxxxx Txxxxxx: [SLUrl for hair store]
Now, even though I'm omitting the store's name and SLUrl, they were perfectly fine to post in the group. It's even in the format we want for announcements in the group: no more than three lines, name of the business, whether it's a free join group or no group needed, and where to go. Simple, easy, done.

It was this next bit that crossed the line.
[09:59] Txxxxxx Txxxxxx: [Gyazo link which I'm omitting just to make the point]
[09:59] Pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: what kind of hair is it and does it come with a hud for color ?
[09:59] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: no outside links
In line with previous Scenes from a Chat, bolding the names of actual mods for groups.
[09:59] Txxxxxx Txxxxxx: not sure to be honest .. i assume its fatpack
[09:59] Rxxxxxxxx Rxxxx: NO outside links here please
[09:59] Txxxxxx Txxxxxx: whats an outside link?
*coughs* "What is an outside link"? Really, this is a question you need to ask??
[10:00] Pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: that was just a acreen shot of screen GAYAZO
"Gayazo"? I'm going to assume that's just a typo, not commentary.
[10:00] Rxxxxxxxx Rxxxx: a link outside Second life like a gyazo or an URL
[10:00] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: its not allowed
[10:00] Txxxxxx Txxxxxx: an url is defo inside
[10:00] Txxxxxx Txxxxxx: i mean an SL url
[10:00] Rxxxxxxxx Rxxxx: a SLurl is in SL.
[10:01] Pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: that was just an innocent screen shot not a website not a porno
I'm morbidly amused that you want to reassure everyone your friend was not trying to post porn. I mean, thanks for trying, but a), that wasn't the issue, and b), she'd already been told not to post outside links.
[10:01] dxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: gyazo is a url not slurl
[10:01] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: rules arerules tho
[10:01] Rxxxxxxxx Rxxxx: itis not allowed, which part don't you understand?
Apparently all the parts between "it" and "allowed".
[10:01] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx:
[10:02] Txxxxxx Txxxxxx: the part where i pasted the slurl of [the hair store]
[10:02] Rxxxxxxxx Rxxxx: that was allowed just not the Gyazo
It's not hard. Just read the rules.
[10:02] Pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: sorry [Txxxxxx] i appolgize on behalf of the overeactions
These aren't overreactions. These are mods telling your friend to stop being an idiot.
[10:02] Txxxxxx Txxxxxx: i still dont understand it though
[10:02] Emilly Orr: While there has been far less spoofing of Gyazo as a domain into SL, as there have been spoofing of MP and Second Life links into SL, the rules were established so that no outside links posted in this group could lead to hacking of accounts of group members, [Rxxxxx].
[10:03] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: yup exactly
[10:03] dxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: o.0? i know, i was telling them gyazo isnt an inside link
My apologies, then.
[10:03] Rxxxxxxxx Rxxxx: Emily explained it perfectly
[10:03] Nxxxxx Txxxxxx: oh yeah ..that reminds me ..[Rxxx] when I was online someone posted a outside link very early this morning which was gyazo :-)
[10:03] xxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: how can I show a screenshot??
[10:03] mxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: what emilly said.
[10:03] Emilly Orr: Gyazo is an outside link, because it originated on a website outside SL. Even if it's a screenshot of something IN SL, it uses software outside SL.
[10:03] Txxxxxx Txxxxxx: so you bann gyazo from your group .. a widely used tool in sl .. so noone gets hacked by the altavista scam?
Pretty much, yeah. It can get harsh at times, and since there isn't a fully in-SL screencap service, yeah, it makes it hard to share screenshots if what we're looking for is to have people help us identify something. But none of the rules of this group were made lightly, or without consideration.
[10:04] Txxxxxx Txxxxxx: can be paste links from the SLf and o blog?
[10:04] mxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: it's a full ban on ALL outside links
[10:04] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: smh....
[10:04] Rxxxxxxxx Rxxxx: we simply do not allow ANY outside link, not Gyazo nor any other screenshot
[10:04] dxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: there have been more than just altervita scams
[10:04] Emilly Orr: It's a broad brush used to protect everyone. And no, [Txxxxxx], no links from the SLF and no blog without approval.
[10:04] Axxxxxxxxxxxx Sxxxxxxx: [Txxxxxx]. only mods can post external links. This is to ensure the safety of all gorup members.
[10:04] Txxxxxx Txxxxxx: great read btw : [and omitting the blog post she linked from the group to make the point]
What is WRONG with you? You were JUST told!
[10:05] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: yuppers
[10:05] Emilly Orr: When you see an outside link posted by someone in bold text? That means they think it's safe.
[10:05] Emilly Orr: [Txxxxxx]...
[10:05] mxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: again you were JUST told not to post outside links.
[10:05] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: smh peeps dont listen
[10:05] Rxxxxxxxx Rxxxx: righht I just told you that outside links were not allowed
[10:05] Txxxxxx Txxxxxx: i guess i just want to be banned from the group now
[10:05] dxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: wow
[10:05] Emilly Orr: Apparently.
[10:05] Axxxxxxxxxxxx Sxxxxxxx: [Txxxxxx], that is an external link. We just said you cannot post it. Only mods can
How many times do we have to restate the same things? She's either really, really clueless and should be having problems standing upright and breathing at the same time, or she's being deliberately obtuse and stubborn about it.
[10:06] Pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: if was an SLfree and offer bog associated with the group page
No. Not unless it's posted by a mod. What did everyone JUST say?
[10:08] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: wish people would read rules ugh save alot of trouble
You could have stopped at "Wish people would read", but I get it. The rules are clearly posted in the info box for the group, plus they're repeated in group chat at least once a week if not more.
[10:09] Axxxxxxxxxxxx Sxxxxxxx: regardless [Pxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] only mods can pst links
[10:09] nxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: still you banning people without looking into ...
[10:07] Second Life: Incoming message from [Rxxxxxxxx Rxxxx]
[10:07] Rxxxxxxxx Rxxxx: You will be removed from the SL F and O group
[10:08] Rxxxxxxxx Rxxxx: You have been ejected from 'SL frees and offers' by [Rxxxxxxxx Rxxxx].
[10:10] Txxxxxx Txxxxxx: LOL
[10:10] Rxxxxxxxx Rxxxx: not even a link to our own SL F and O blog is allowed, only MODS can post outside links
[10:10] Rxxxxxxxx Rxxxx: so true
[10:11] Emilly Orr: Well, if it was [Txxxxxx], she directly violated a rule after being told, but she's still here. I'd say it was you, but you're still here, so I'm confused.
[10:11] Rxxxxxxxx Rxxxx: posting IMs is against the ToS. But as you can see she was NOT banned just removed for breaking the rules twice. The group is free. She can join back any time.
And that's pretty much where it ended. It's still vaguely disturbing that something like this happens about once a week in this group, sheerly because people don't read. So tragic.

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