jack into the mind, dominate the change

Now, this one's just odd. This comes from a freebie/dollarbie group with very specific rules: namely, no clubs, no Adult sims without mod approval, no linking to MMs or free gifts that involve vehicles. They aren't hard rules, they just have a lot of them. I've posted about this group before.

But today is the first time I'm going to criticize a mod.

[11:10] axxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: theyve been told repeatedly by mods
[11:12] Rxxxxxxxx Rxxxx: I even filed ARs about the club...nothing happened
[11:13] axxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: well theres nothing can AR them about is there

So, Miss R is the mod in question. And...she's wrong here. You can't file ARs against the club for someone who works at the club posting about it in your group, that is not harassment. That's a resident issue, LL won't get involved.

[11:15] sxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: must be one hell of a crap club if they have to keep bugging people with spam
[11:16] Dxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: o.O
[11:16] axxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: probably is .. annoying against group rules but they arent breaking any LL TOS by doing it
[11:16] kxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: everything.
[11:16] Rxxxxxxxx Rxxxx: yes there is [Axxxxxxx], They repeatedly spam the group with posts that are not allowed. LL can see the IP and see they come form the same source

No...they can't, and they won't. Legally it's not a violation of ToS.

Say I make a group for members named Jake. I'm the only non-Jake in the group because I run it. But my rules say only Jakes can join, only Jakes can post. A Bradley joins, I boot him. He complains to the Lindens and tries to AR my account for booting him out of the group of Jakes.

The Lindens will do nothing, because the group does not violate ToS in any way. My actions were consistent with my group rules, and they will support that. See the difference? Miss R can AR all she wants, but the Lindens will not lift one finger in her defense, because it is not harassment, damaging spam or fraud.

[11:17] sxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: sorry for language but dont make me inclined to go vist them in the least
[11:17] axxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: repeated spam means they have to be actually done withint few secs ofeach other
[11:17] axxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: just posting once a day .. is not considering spamming by LL
[11:17] Vxxxxx Cxxxxxxxxxx: and still they get away with it?
[11:18] axxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: unless they overload chat to spamming lvl of grieving like every few mins etc repeatedly .. it is considered a user issue to handle

Exactly. The Lindens are concerned about people harassing other users, about people griefing or spamming other users with screaming objects or prims that text-spam, about people committing fraud against their users. Almost everything else, outside of the definitions for General, Mature and Adult, is left in residents' hands.

[11:21] Rxxxxxxxx Rxxxx: they post against the group rules. Clubs are not allowed. But I am sure you know way better :) thanks for sharing

Again, usually I support the mods in this group, but Miss R...you're wrong. 100% wrong. Yes, according to the group rules of this group, clubs are not allowed and cannot post. If it is a problem, you as a moderator can ban that person from being in the group. But you CANNOT AR that person, because THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING against ToS. The charges for which a user can AR another user are specific--harassment (provable), spam (that leads to Altervista and other scam sites, or that comes from text-spamming objects dumped into sims), or fraud. That's it.

[11:22] axxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: against the group rules .. does not break TOS ... I have dealt with this before owning a store ... again .. hence ... they are not doing anything to your AR
[11:22] axxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: but im totally sure cos you say so must be right even though TOS states differently
[11:23] Txxxxx Zxxxxx: [Axx] just read it, rules are same for all of us

The group rules, yes. The ToS, well, the rules also are the same for all of us, but they are legal rules, not resident rules. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.

[11:25] Sxxx Sxxxxx: LL will do nothing for a group issue, if someone is breaking the group rules all the mods/owner can do is just ban the offender .. LL classes it as a resident issue

They do, and they always will.