And look--robot penguins!
Back to the old thread before I get all caught up in the new one, but an announcement first.
After having thought this over, this is mayhap the calmest locale for this decree.
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN (and if I have to say more than that, I'll likely say it personally, and with a suitable amount of high explosives): I AM NOT YOUR PERSONAL SLUT FOR HIRE.
I have been out of the escort business for nearly two full years. I have been out of the trade of Companion for more than two years. I cannot be bought for sexual services, I cannot be rented as anything other than a charming hostess accompanying a spinner of vintage-to-modern music through Radio Riel.
Which brings us to point two: I have tried very hard to get this point across to you, but I DO NOT GIVE REFUNDS. I certainly do not give refunds for services contracted OVER TWO YEARS AGO. You may officially now stop holding this over my head or I swear to my gods, I WILL MAKE THIS PUBLIC.
*coughs* Please note, that's only directed to one of you, and he may not be reading. But I felt it had to be said.
Now, then. Rene Erlenger spoke to Linden confidence:
You mean the same sort of confidence when LL decided that FREE accounts would be an awesome idea.....now you've slammed the "reverse" gear and [asking] all those same FREE accounts to go and get verified one way or another!
Shouldn't LL just admit that allowing FREE accounts back in 2006 was a huge mistake and contributed to a lot of the current problems (Bots, [griefing], teenagers sneaking in)
Near as I can figure, Linden Labs never admits to making mistakes. EVER. It'd be some kind of switch for them to start now.
I will say, 2006 was an understandable boom to the grid's population. I came in then, Duchess Gabrielle Riel, and many, many others who own businesses, clubs, have a ton invested in the day-to-day life of the grid.
But along with us, the crowd of the mostly responsible, came everyone else--the griefers, the hackers, the tweeners, the YouTubers who saw sex vids from SL and had to come see, the gold spammers from other games who thought they'd finally found a way to turn a profit in SL, all the twisted parade of the broken and the botched.
Do I think that means ban anyone who has a free account, or restrict them to the point where "proper" verification means are employed so they'll have the freedom to visit adult areas? No. I do think that means that those who want to age-verify for Pornodelphia be given a list of options, that work for all of SL's user base, domestic and international. I also think those options should include ones that are not tailored to US data-mining, or reselling of names and addresses.
Because that one, for me, at least, if not anyone else? Is VITAL.
I want to quote a rather large portion of Morganna Reggiane's reply to Nany Kayo, because I think it's that important:
I shop at Home Depot, Walmart and Loblaws just like everyone else in my community from teen welfare mothers to Bay Street bankers. I am a Cultural Anthropologist, have taught at university and been an active member in many professional associations and fora.
My daughters go to school right along side children of crack addicts, erotic dancers, teachers, white collar professionals and autoworkers. I was a active and vocal participant in the PTA at both of their schools, attended every Girl Guides meeting and banquet and was a designated "safe" home for my Neighborhood Watch.
I am a REAL WORLD Domme and have been for 30+ years. For the past 4 years I have hosted a monthly Munch at a local [restaurant] which has full disclosure about the nature of our meetings and the assurance that we will act appropriately in accordance with all bylaws pertaining to public decency and liquor control laws. These munches are not hidden in some back room and are open to anyone over the age of 19.
Exactly WHO do you think we are? We are your neighbors, your co-workers and your friends. We may even be a family member. What we do is legal between consenting adults and if some peeping tom used a telescope to look into my private home as defined by the boundries of the land the police would ARREST the "pervert"...SL would ARREST me under this ill defined policy.
I joined SL to get AWAY from such [blatant] bigotry, intolerance and ignorance. Due to this decision I will be removing the referrals links from my Munch website (3000 views per month) and Fetlife profile (20,000 active members) as it is no longer an open environment where adults can safely explore all aspects of their sexuality with assured anonymity.
This is not an empty threat. Fetlife I think has far more than 20,000 members, and it's far more than simply a kinky personals site--it features forums, interactive discussions, educational opportunities, and chances to gather in RL, both intimately and in large neutral groups--so Miss Reggiane removing the referral link back to Second Life is costing them all those eyes.
Maybe they no longer want those eyes, but trust me--do you want people in world who are intelligent, articulate, and can afford the cost for leather outfits that are custom-designed to be buying Lindens...or do you want obedient little drones who don't want to be offended, or buy anything in world because it's full of sex and violence?
(Yes, yes, I know there's a middle ground, and I know there are angels and idiots on both sides of the argument. Nany just ticks me off entirely.)
Wynochee LeShelle's excellent forum post, cannot be condensed, but for the sake of brevity, I'll try:
Originally Posted by Blondin Linden
Forgive my ignorance, but why wouldn't link-take-drop work?
have you ever tried to link a - maybe . 257 prim house + base + additional interior and decorations, incl. all coffeecups, ashtrays, cigarettes, the milk bottle, the trees around the house, the nearby full [equipped] gallery, the loft at the other side of the self-developed street, the moonshine house, the zero-energy-house, the garbo gallery, the factory, the street itself, the nearby office building, the nearby second gallery with hundreds of frames and art-pics and the architecture and prefabs shop you made, all advertisings and corporated signs and customer service items, the demo buildings, and the second private home, the sky box...some vehicles and the other 5000 prims of half a sim, including some very small and some mini prims and some invisible or transparent prims and some whatever prims, a perfect setup [which] fitted to the more or less wavy landscape - then take all that stuff, while many of the prims are [set] to one owner, many of the prims are [set] to [other people, groups, and services] and to take that all as a bundle and to drop that somewhere into a different sim half with a different landscape...
She goes on to indicate other concerns, like the phone ringing in the middle of picking up the main build section, or your connection going down, or finding out after you've selected everything and moved it that you've left pieces behind, or if the sim area isn't a standard 512 or even 1024, but 64000+ total sim of land...and more.
Then she brings up how even the difficulty of moving isn't the worst of it; the worst of it is all your customers, your clients, suddenly have no idea where you went, none of their landmarks work, you have to revise every XStreetSL entry you have...and that's not counting any blog or website entries you have to go back and change.
It's a massive undertaking, one the Lindens have perpetually and constantly diminished as, "What's the big deal, it's just prims, pick 'em up and move 'em!"
Nany Kayo, Nany Kayo, what is the grid to do with you...
Quite honestly, I don't think any policy change would take the sex industry out of SL. People involved in sex trade are not known to be a sensitive or subtle bunch. I woudn't worry that their feelings are going to be so hurt they stop selling sex anywhere and everywhere they can get away with it.
I know I said I was going to stop quoting her, but....it really makes me wonder. I mean, yes, there are women who deliberately sell themselves for little or nothing. There are women who believe "escort" equals a tattoo that says "PUT [CENSORED] HERE" with arrows pointing at the nether region and/or the mouth.
But the professional ladies of the Pearl, when it operated in Caledon? The lady Companions and male Companions who staffed Le Jardin, when I worked there? The wonderful, sensual furs who work at Seven Tails Brothel? These are intelligent, caring people who are dedicated to the art of craft, not simply "o baby o baby do me". These are, on more than rare occasion, very subtle people, for part of the art of the courtesan is that it's not only about sex, that what we do--and what I did, for I'm rather formally aligned to not seeking at this point--is part and parcel of the psychology of interaction, be it sexual, mental, or emotional.
It's obvious to me that Nany has never bothered to look beyond her narrow and limited view at all the possibilities, before her mind snapped shut and mangled the rest of her thinking.
Rayne Keynes joins the exodus:
I have talked to the estate owner where I live and work, due to the content of our estate being 90% "Adult" she would flag her estate as adult. As a result fully half of my employees and probably close to 75% of my patrons would no longer be able to get into her region, let alone my business.
[ ... ] My liquidation has already begun. I have cashed out $150 this morning with more to follow from the sale of my land and L$ transferred back to me from my Alt account. having an extra $600 to play with this month in the real world will be nice.
And another one gone...
Storyof Oh had a question on page 150:
Am i seriously reading that a Linden isn't familiar with the problems of linking and moving items?
Yes. Yes, you are. Let that sink in for a bit.
Rene Erlenger adds the comment we've all been avoiding:
[ ... ]an EstateOwner that has mixed content, is going to have to make some tough decisions....it will eventually displace more people & businesses than Mainland.
Then Blondin turned on the definitions again:
[The] way that I am personally judging these are by asking myself 'is the theme overtly sexual'. I can't help be feel that the theme of a strip club is overtly sexual - even if no sex takes place.
So now it's officially photorealistic depictions of nudity via image, media or animation; all graphic depictions of sex; all extremely violent images, media or animations; all images, media and animations concerning drug use; and strip clubs. Great.
Ceera Murakami ponders real estate futures:
Unless Linden Lab takes direct action to prevent it, (which would be 180 degrees contrary to every recent offering of large areas of land that LL has managed), then the instant they make it possible for individuals to voluntarily purchase land in the new XXX continent, the greedy speculators and land flippers and land bots will swoop in and try to buy up all the land, and then try to resell it at extortion rate prices. And they will have a monopoly on land suited to Adult activities.
I really want to know how LL intends to prevent that nightmare.
Me too. Guess we'll learn in June.
Cinda Noel adds her opinion:
And my thought is at that point I will stop buying hair, skins, shapes, clothes, and gadgets, and stop tipping clubs and people and probably stop going to SL altogether. If I can't go hang out with my friends, what's the point?
My alt will still be required to enter SL for the occasional client project but I don't see us doing as many of those as we did in 2007 - 08.
And another one down.
Ceera Murakami responded to Deltango Vale's question on the process of the process:
Originally Posted by Deltango Vale
Folks, don't you see that by playing the definitions game, you have walked into a trap? You have accepted LL's premise that definitions are good - and you are running around like squirrels in a cage without questioning the validity of the cage itself.
Dear, we tried challenging the cage. And LL said quite clearly that the action to move Adult Content was not negotiable. That the only thing they would listen to was suggestions on how to kill the victims with the least fuss and bother.
Grady Vuckovic has an issue:
a) is stupid.
b) thinks we're stupid.
Please! LL show some intelligence and DON'T implement this! It's probably the LEAST wanted change you've ever suggested, doesn't that tell you something??
As for who is affected... a quick look at my friends list: about 95% of everyone I know.
*snickers* While I don't think LL is stupid as a whole, nor thinks we're mentally challenged as a population, it is a funny way to sum up the whole issue.
And at the top of page 160, the thing that made me throw up my hands and give up on the forums for at least the next twenty-four hours, Nany Kayo's chipper little response:
I hope we can have our kids here. I really do.
Just. NO. I am NOT PLAYING THIS GAME WITH CHILDREN.
Gods, I am so damned glad I'm off the market, dating-wise. I want NO CONTACT with anyone under eighteen!
This is just ridiculous. She's a mental case.