Ran into this...avatar...at an Equal 10 event. Didn't say anything. I didn't ask. But the profile said "I am a toilet."
Ooookay. You do you, I guess. It takes...all kinds?
[12:02] axxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: ok time to shut down one laptop and start up another, so I'm going to go and eat and will be back in 30 minutes give or take. If there is anything you should need, please IM myself or [Exxxx] (she should be back in world any time now) and we will get back to you asapSuuuure.
[12:03] sxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: enjoy your food [Axxxx]!
[12:03] fxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: eating steak atm
[12:04] Sxxxx Gxxxxxx: Delightful. :o
[12:04] Cxxxxx Fxxxxxxxxx: what you having for dinner?
[12:10] txxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: dick
[12:10] Mxxxx Sxxxxxxxxx: um not ok
[12:12] Vxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxx: Dick?
[12:14] txxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: OMFG
[12:14] txxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I MEANT DUCK
[12:14] txxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: LOL
[11:09] axxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Is there a manger here?I was so tempted to say "Not until December", but...I didn't. Go me.
[10:46] dxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: ok guys that are new check this out. 5 linden and you have a good start to not look like a noob. david male full avatar 5 lindenNow, this wasn't exactly a Marketplace link post, but as they explain later, they don't want even a mention of designers on MP, which is a further refinement of an existing policy.
[name of the store which I'm omitting, because I'm not playing this game today]
Sold by: ling Serenity on marketplace
NOT ALLOWED in chat:And these have been the rules since I've joined, and I've been in this group for a few years now.
Store ads/spam/self-promotion
3 lines MAX posts
MP & most outside links
Drama/rudeness
Criticizing stores/gifts
Malls-Franchises
Disco/Club/DJ ads
Breedables
Land rental/sale
Most Adult sims/items
Gambling
Car/motor-AO/Anims-Pay MM/LBs
RP: OOC only
Pls don't link your blog in chat
[10:48] Rxxxxxxxx Rxxxx: please do not post MP here?This has to be a fairly recent change, but again, as they explain below, there's a reason for it. There's a reason for all of their rules, and none are exceptionally hard to follow.
[10:49] nxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: [dxxx] this is not the first time you have posted a store not allowed
[10:54] axxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: im confused why is this store not allowed and i dont see a mp link
[10:55] nxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: no link but still promoting it
[10:55] axxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: people say .. check MP in this ground alll day long lolAnd there it is. There is a lot of copyright-infringing product on the Marketplace, and I'm thinking this is the group trying to police that, to a certain extent, by not allowing mentions pointing to a specific designer on MP, as well as no MP links.
[10:55] axxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: even you mods lol
[10:55] dxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: wait hold on
[10:55] nxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: hang on on phone
[10:55] dxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: what you talk about
[10:56] Rxxxxxxxx Rxxxx: You can say : did you check MP but not name a store or designer. Why not? Because there is a lot of stolen and copybotted stuff on MP
[10:57] dxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: seriously [[rxxxx] come on do i look like a noob and does it need to be a kids garden here. you always are picking on the same people and not cause they all make the same mistakes all overSeriously? That is such a weak complaint. None of the mods "pick on" people; they identify mistakes, they try to explain why they're against the rules, and then everyone moves on. Like you should.
[10:58] Cxxxxx Wxxxx: I can see that, seems every designer has some version of a wet dress nowWell, it's less that, which isn't direct copyright infringement, and more the actual digital acquisition of one designer's product by another designer for the express purpose of reselling as if it were their original product.
[10:58] dxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: you think i dont check stuff? lol check her blog
[blog omitted, because I'm not going to play this game]
[10:59] Rxxxxxxxx Rxxxx: sorry? I just said please do not post MP here? and I am picking on you [Dxxx]? [10:59] nxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: wtf [10:59] Rxxxxxxxx Rxxxx: NO outside links either [11:00] dxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: wow. [f*ck] this group. mods are picking on people. learn to moderate you [f*cks]
Way to escalate past the initial stupid into outright rude. You're not helping.
[11:00] nxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: please leave if you wishYou can just spell it out, and not be a passive-aggressive baby about things.
[11:01] dxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i wish for ... ..... .... .. ....... .
[11:01] Kxxxxxx Mxxxxxxx: yes,they can learn to moderate: you know like what they're doing when they tell people over and over not to do something that's actually listed in the rules you shouldn't do.Yeah, what a time to log into group.
[11:02] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: The mods aren't picking on anyone, the rules have always been no outside links, including mp links
[11:02] Kxxxxxx Mxxxxxxx: what more do you want them to do? kick you out of the group when you break a rule?
[11:02] Kxxxxxx Mxxxxxxx: then you'll whine about how harsh they are over innocent mistakes
[11:02] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Er... I just logged in. Good morning?
[11:02] Kxxxxxx Mxxxxxxx: hello!
[11:03] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Its listed in the group description, easily foundREAL easy, it's RIGHT THERE.
[11:03] zxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: ~sits and watches while drinking some chai~Actually, no, there is no line, everyone does get the same treatment, and the mods do all they can to keep things fair.
[11:03] dxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: actually no there is a line between what woman post and guys post and who posts what cause not everybody gets the same treatment and some get vip treatment and some can do about everything. thats how things go
[11:03] Qxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: hands [Cxxxxxx] a ring-side seating ticket..Good Morning..please have a seat and enjoy the fight. Today: scammers versus Mods. Hope you brought some popcornWell, now you're just being stupid.
[11:03] nxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: ok if you wish to leave just leave
[11:04] Kxxx Lxxxxxxxxxxx: passes popcorn
[11:04] nxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: we had a peaceful group and we have rules
[11:04] dxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: does porncorn work too joker?
[11:04] kxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: hey joker thats my popcornNah, the mods are capable, they'll do it themselves.
[11:04] zxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: corncorn?
[11:05] Kxxx Lxxxxxxxxxxx: smirks it tastes good especially when its someone elses
[11:05] Rxxx Bxxx: I volunteer to do the distasteful things that mods cant get their hands dirty doing
[11:05] kxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: muttersThey are. There are a lot of rules in this group. In other groups, there's only one or two. And most of the time, the mods manage enforcement without controversy. That's some skill, there.
[11:05] Qxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: making coffee for everyone?
[11:05] Rxxx Bxxx: oh i can do that too!
[11:05] rxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: thats just complete nonsense, we have one of the best groups on the grid, and the mods are very fair
[11:05] Rxxx Bxxx: trots off to the kitchen[again, not giving the links, not playing today]
[11:05] Qxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: holds out her mug
[11:05] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: LucyBody as a free group MM board with a mesh body here:
[11:06] Kxxxxx Cxxxxx: raises hand I would like coffee but give me a shot or two of booze
[11:06] zxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: ty [Rxxx]! i'll have a shot in my coffee too
[11:06] Rxxx Bxxx: gets the hypodermic ready
Oh, dear. I don't think that's what she meant.
[11:06] kxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: laughsBecause it pointed to a specific designer and named the product on MP, I think.
[11:06] Rxxx Bxxx: oh in the coffee
[11:06] Rxxx Bxxx: ok i can do that too
[11:07] Sxxxxx Sxxxxxxxx: the ban against MP web links is because there's been a spate of *fake* MP links in the past - where it actually steals your login credentials and takes all your lindens - hence the wholesale ban on MP links
[11:07] nxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: also we say look on mp, but [dxxx] post was one not allowed
[11:08] nxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: we dont like to ban but we only do it as last resortIt's becoming pretty common, because of the spate of fake links in the past.
[11:08] kxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: many groups i am in ban mp links and outside links
[11:08] kxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: so is not jusat this group
[11:08] Cxxxxx Wxxxx: very true
[11:08] Sxxxxx Sxxxxxxxx: ^^^ safety reasons :)
[11:08] Cxxxxx Wxxxx: one of the adult groups i am in doesn't allow outside links
[11:09] zxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: many groups im in, not just clothing, hair...etc. do not allow outside links
[11:10] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Free Dove is having a mini hunt that includes 10 hair (m/w) and nails among other things. No group: [link omitted again]Maybe. Or maybe they're just thinking up new scams.
[11:11] Kxxx Lxxxxxxxxxxx: is understandable as it is easy to accidentally click on suck a link
[11:11] Kxxx Lxxxxxxxxxxx: such even
[11:11] Sxxxxx Sxxxxxxxx: I wonder if LL are filtering the fake links now - since it's been at least 2 months since i've seen one
[11:11] kxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: lol no comment [jxxxx]
[11:11] Sxxxxx Sxxxxxxxx doesn't test it
[11:15] Kxxxxxx Mxxxxxxx: there's always a low activity time
[11:15] Kxxxxxx Mxxxxxxx: maybe they made enough money for a while
There was some chatter about computers dying, and then this:
[11:23] nxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: btw last time we had a riot in group and not the member chat was closedIt wasn't. I was there for the last time. And it's the absolute last resort when things get badly out of hand. Considering this group pretty much solely exists to share links to Midnight Mania boards, lucky chairs and boards, free and dollarbie gifts, and store sales...being unable to chat within the group is harsh indeed.
[11:23] nxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: so please keep that in mind as its not nice
Let's hope the rest of us stay civil enough that it doesn't happen again.
[14:25] Kxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I love you, Caledon.That's kind of the problem.
[14:25] Emilly Orr: We know you do. And Caledon likely loves you back. :)
[14:25] Cxxxxxxxx Xxxxxxx: [Kxxx], you are Caledon!
[23:19] Bxxxxxx Wxxxxxxxx: Gm all ! I'm totally shocked ! How can be , that Cece Bodysuit makes a Complexity to be over 300K , while every single other outfit is hecking much lower.? That's terrible complexity and must ABSOLUTELY to be lower , because it cause lag as hell ! Thank You ! And yes , not gonna use it,before its fixed !!!Whoa, whoa whoa. First off, did you not think it would be a better idea to send a notecard with queries on this issue to the maker--or to one of her many, many, customer service representatives? Secondly, do you always use punctuation so haphazardly? I mean, it's just weirdly consistent enough to be intentional, so I'm just baffled.
[23:20] Cxxxxx Pxxxx: what is your complexity without it?Okay, I'm tempted to leave this untouched and just mock you, but I'm fairly sure you meant 300K, with the 'without' wearing this piece the closer 30K figure. Instead of saying how horrified you are that it ends up reducing your total complexity by 195, which is what you've implied here by the typo.
[23:20] Ixxxxx Sxxxxxxx: you sure its that causing it?
[23:20] Bxxxxxx Wxxxxxxxx: 30K
[23:20] Bxxxxxx Wxxxxxxxx: without totally 30.195
[23:20] Cxxxxx Pxxxx: wowNow, I want to go on record here--I'm wrong. Not in how silly Miss B is sounding by raving this strongly for zero reason in group chat, but in my understanding of mesh. I don't own a lot of mesh outfits with transparent, solid mesh--most of them feature a hem that's a transparent texture over a solid section of the mesh template, for instance. This is not that, and I was wrong. As Vanill points out below.
[23:20] Txxxxx Mxxxxx: 0.o
[23:20] Ixxxxx Sxxxxxxx: I doubt its the bodysuit
[23:20] Emilly Orr: That's not possible.
[23:20] Vanill A Honi (hopey.honi): Yes it is possible(And let me further say, I am choosing to leave her comments unaonymized, both because she's on target, and because she does own the business.)
[23:20] Bxxxxxx Wxxxxxxxx: And i'm not so idiot that i type here without knowing what's my complexity withoutNo, but you are so 'idiot' not to use proper grammar, punctuation and send off a courteously worded complaint to the maker in private, without just making a scene in group chat. That is pretty 'idiot' if you ask me.
[23:20] Bxxxxxx Wxxxxxxxx: Then you fix it VanillOh, yeah, because she's going to just leap right on correcting an outfit you were so rude to her about.
[23:20] Vanill A Honi (hopey.honi): cause the net is made of meshThat, exactly. Instead, we get...
[23:21] Sxxxxx Rxxxxxx: Sorry , i can confirm that [Bxxxxx] is right
[23:21] Ixxxxx Sxxxxxxx: nah it isnt and instead saying negative in here plz IM the right person for it
[23:21] Bxxxxxx Wxxxxxxxx: Vanill , pls fix it...Miss B utterly ignoring sensible advice in favor of throwing a tantrum.
[23:21] Ixxxxx Sxxxxxxx: I rather not read it in a groupI'm not so sure, but you go on believing that if it makes you feel better.
[23:21] sxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Its pretty detailed i mean it has to be to be that sexy ;)
[23:21] Bxxxxxx Wxxxxxxxx: And Vanill already confirmed its possible
[23:21] Vanill A Honi (hopey.honi): I´ll fix it being texture only the next 2 weeks
[23:21] Emilly Orr: Hmm, as I haven't seen the Cece I was assuming it was a solid piece. Adding transparency, yeah...I hate it, but yeah, it could happen.
[23:21] Bxxxxxx Wxxxxxxxx: with that hecking complexity.? O.o
[23:21] nxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: There is a reason there re demos [Bxxxxx], use them for the future it will help you.
[23:22] Bxxxxxx Wxxxxxxxx: Hell , i know there is demos , i'm not a f*cking idiot
[23:22] Sxxxxx Rxxxxxx: Farrah , it's from the LB...Later on, one of the customer service reps makes mention that it's in the store. I went by the day after this chat happened, but Vanill must have already removed the vendor for revision. Here's what I do have, though:
[23:22] Dxxxxxx Dxxxxxx: complexity only affects people running toasters potatoes and tomatoe computers i regularly see people in the high 6 digits low 7 and i have no issues and complexity has absolutely nothing to do with sim lagSnarky li'l muffin, aren't you? Step aside, this isn't your fight. Also, not everyone a computer the size of the planet to work with.
[23:22] Sxxxxx Rxxxxxx: [Bxxxxx] no need for that.Never was, but she doesn't care. And she's not done bitching about it.
[23:22] Bxxxxx Wxxxxxxxx: But over 300K complexity...Afwul lagmakerSee? She can't just let this go and take the advice of folks who are telling her--in group chat and in private IMs--to take this to notecard.
[23:22] Emilly Orr: Even barring the alpha layers for a mesh body, any transparency in mesh ups the complexities.All of that, yes.
[23:22] nxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: It is also for sale [Sxxxxx], so there are demos available.
[23:22] Txxxxx Mxxxxx: ok no need to be rude about this just contact vanill and it will be sorted...
[23:23] Bxxxxxx Wxxxxxxxx: Gonna trash that complexity monster ! Its absolutely too high to be used ! Sadly , because its damn sexy !!
[23:23] Bxxxxx Mxxxxxxx: She already said she'd fix it in the next two weeks. How about saying thank you and moving on :D
[23:23] Sxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Yes please in the future please send a notecard of suggestions.
[23:23] Emilly Orr: That would be helpful, yes.
[23:23] Sxxxxx Rxxxxxx: as example i wear now the Rayna Bodysuit with heels : 38.000 complexityYes, you're perfect and your computer can calculate universal time in 75 billion figures. Shut up, that's not the point.
[23:23] Mxxxxxxx Bxxxxxxxx: Nah complexity effects everyone your computer can only handle so much even if your computers really good TBF. That said complexity has never been particularly accurate in it's numbers....
[23:23] Bxxxxx Mxxxxxxx: and if you are going to photograph it use the original it photographs gorgeously
[23:24] Sxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: good idea, [Sxx]
[23:25] Dxxxxxx Dxxxxxx: i dont use a viewer thats misbuilt and kills itself if the complexity is to high V3 only Blobs high complexity to a bug thats inherent and cannot be fixed.. i have absolutely no issues in my sim of 80+ avis all in the 400k's ..
[23:25] Cxxxxx Pxxxx: complexity doesn't affect me, I have it set at a certain number, higher than that and you are a jelly doll.Let it go.
[23:25] Bxxxxxx Wxxxxxxxx: Which is too hight , tbh !!
[23:26] Cxxxxx Pxxxx: so I wouldn't see that pretty outfit
[23:26] Axxxxx Mxxxxxx: Everyone forgets, complexity only affects a viewer and not a sim. If the complexity is higher than your pc can handle then you turn down what is viewed or other people also have their complexity setting adjusted and the world moves on.Great, can we be done then? Move on. Holy gods, you're like a snapping turtle with a broom handle.
[23:26] Bxxxxxx Wxxxxxxxx: pretty yes,but not even useable with soo high complexity
[23:26] Txxxxx Mxxxxx: moving on.......
[23:26] Bxxxxxx Wxxxxxxxx: trashed it anyways
[23:26] Bxxxxx Mxxxxxxx: She already said she would fix it, can you please move onYes, exactly. Thankfully, conversation drifted at that point, but a few moments later there was this:
[23:28] vxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: [Bxxxxx], you asked me not to msg you in IM, I have asked you in the past to remain civil in group and not swear and you have yelled at me for providing you simple information. If you need help, please send a NC, the group is not to swear and complain in, we have customer support for issues. Have a great day.So, great, Miss B's 'idiot' all the time then? Because what level of mental deficient screams about not getting what she wants, and then asks the people who could solve her issue NOT TO TALK TO HER??!? Wonderful...
[23:28] cxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Anyone have a picture of this high complexity suit? I need an excuse to blow more money. :DSee above.
[23:28] Bxxxxx Mxxxxxxx: it's in the lucky letter boardsAlso that.
[23:38] Bxxxxx Mxxxxxxx: is that body suit available in other colors or just the green? It's stunning and I want other colors lol [23:38] vxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Thank you hun, its available in all of our 21 colors for sale in the mainstore :)
[23:42] Vanill A Honi (hopey.honi): For all others, the Cece Bodysuit will be updated at some point being texture net instead of mesh net
[23:42] vxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Honestly mesh net is super pretty
[23:42] Vanill A Honi (hopey.honi): I´ll have both versions for you in the pack so if you want to use mesh net for pics you can. Just saying
[23:42] Bxxxxx Mxxxxxxx: oh phew lol
[23:44] Lxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I like the mesh net. You did well with it and we don't have to worry about layers disappearing with it!
[23:44] Vanill A Honi (hopey.honi): Thank you LostToy
[23:45] vxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Yep for tats its perfect
[23:45] Emilly Orr: That is the best reason to use mesh net. Those of us who have permanent tattoos.
[23:46] sxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: haha i guess most of us can agree that mesh net is sexier ;) haha
Allll right then. Let's talk about (hopefully) this year's haunt, Neon Ascendance. (Which needs a better name.) So the first hic...