I don't know if I can open up, I've been opened enough (part VI)

Then a bit of saved chat from Apple Fall:

[10:40] Kxxxx Axxxxxx: Well Apple Fall was ahead of the curve.... https://community.secondlife.com/blogs/entry/8586-policy-change-regarding-gacha/
[10:41] Exx Rxxxxx: exactly
[10:41] Exx Rxxxxx: lol
[10:41] Kxxxx Axxxxxx: Now if Apple Fall would be so kind to unretire all gachas as regular products... LOL
[10:42] Jxxxxx Dxxxxxxx: Sorry but that will never happen.
[10:42] Jxxxxx Dxxxxxxx: Even more reason not to now lol
[10:42] Exx Rxxxxx: which seems unfair to those who bought them as gachas
[10:42] Kxxxx Axxxxxx: I know [Jxxxxx]
[10:42] Jxxxxx Dxxxxxxx: grins.. always worth a shot I know lol
[10:42] Kxxxx Axxxxxx: [Exx] they did a trade in
[10:42] Jxxxxx Dxxxxxxx: It wont happen [Exx] dont worry
[10:43] Exx Rxxxxx: oh I know [Jxxxxx] :)
[10:43] Exx Rxxxxx: Apple is always fair
[10:43] Exx Rxxxxx: I would love GM to reissue a 63 vette but i know that will never happen either.
[10:43] Exx Rxxxxx: hehe [Exxx]
[10:43] Exx Rxxxxx: the sexy years
[10:44] lxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: its a very sad day...
[10:44] Axxxxxxx Qxxxx: well I am sad BUT that will save me a fortune LOL
[10:48] Kxxxx Axxxxxx: The only issue is rezz days, birthdays, and yule it is back to gift cards for all.
[10:48] Exx Rxxxxx: no kidding
[10:48] Axxxxxxx Axxxx: I know gacha never sat right with Apple, so yeah he was ahead of the times!
[10:49] Exxx Pxxxxxxxxx: Be sure to go visit your favourite gachas and get plenty of copies before the 31st!
[10:49] Exx Rxxxxx: true that
[10:49] cxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: some gachas can be still found on MP by resellers.
[10:49] sxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Reselling is fine because you know what you're getting for the price.
[10:50] cxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: exactly
[10:50] sxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: It's the RNG element that they're cracking down on from the machines.
[10:51] Jxxxxx Dxxxxxxx: Taking away the gamble element
[11:07] Kxxxx Axxxxxx: Having thrown 9k into one for 1 ultra rare... then having to sell the other itms and hope I make some of my money back... honestly I am over gachas
[11:07] Zxx Bxxx: What was it you were after?
[11:08] Cxxxxxxxx Mxxxxxxx: good riddance gachas are a scourge
[11:08] Txxxxx Dxxxxxx: seems like Apple was ahead of the curve on this one....smiles
[11:08] Txxxx Mxxxxxxx: I like gachas, I play a few pulls then go find what I want on Mp
[11:08] Sxxxxxxx Sxxxxxxxx: I hate having ONE chair that is no copy, then hunting down 3 more etc. I never liked gachas
[11:08] Vxxxxxxxxx Dxxxxxx: see I thought of this like grab bags
[11:08] Cxxxx Mxxxx: Horrible idea
[11:09] Cxxxxxxxx Mxxxxxxx: they are technically loot boxes, and governments around the world are cracking down on them
[11:09] Cxxxxxxxx Mxxxxxxx: so I am sure LL is getting ahead of that before they have issues with laws
[11:10] Txxxx Mxxxxxxx: Never thought of gacha as gambling, but more like a gum ball machine
[11:23] Exxx Hxxxxxxxx: will the perk day be going too ?
[11:24] Wxxxx Sxxxxxx: why would it? It's not a gambling event
[11:24] Zxxxx Yxxxxx: it is gambling. you never know what you get. all gacha players always hope for the rare. to ask the high bingo prise for it
[11:25] Apple Pancake: Since you're not paying anything to participate in Perk, perk is staying. That's just a giveaway :]
[11:25] Ixxxxx Axxxxx: yay
[11:26] Apple Pancake: Nothing will change at the store since I discontinued gachas some time ago. You can still find people reselling individual items or collections on the marketplace
[11:26] Axxxx Lxxxxxxxx: yay!
[11:30] Kxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: and we love you for it:)
[11:31] Kxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: now, about a cloisonne lamp...
[11:31] Kxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: ;D
[11:34] Xxxxxxx Axxxxx: Any chance Apple will hold another exchange for those of us taht missed the last one he did??? 8(
[11:42] Yxxxx Yxxx: FIRE
[11:42] Kxxx Ixxxxxxxx: FREEEDOOOOM
[11:42] Kxxx Ixxxxxxxx: HOLY SHIT I NEVER THOUGHT I'D SEE THE DAY
[11:42] Yxxxx Yxxx: that won't clear the store
[11:44] Dxx Dxxxxx: lol dropped in to make a landmark .. hanging around to see whats goin on ...?
[11:45] Yxxxx Yxxx: can't get in :(
[11:45] Apple Pancake: Monday Perk is active, so you just need to visit the store and get pinged by the tracker. You're entered then into a giveaway which happens weekly for L$ or store credit
[11:45] ixxxxx Rxxxxxxx: what freedom [Kxxx]? you were in jail? :)
[11:45] Dxx Dxxxxx: idk why its this crowded .. ill leave after i find out xD (omg i have fomo!)
[11:46] Dxx Dxxxxx: oh lord ppl just hanging out then :D
[11:46] Apple Pancake: Store can get congested on Mondays but it will ease out in a little bit
[11:46] Kxxx Ixxxxxxxx: freedom from gambling
[11:47] Lxxxx Axxxxxxx: Can we just have these items as fatpacks pleaseeee
[11:47] Kxxxx Axxxxxx: THANK YOU!!!!!!!!
[11:47] Ixxx Mxxxxx: You guys are so awesome. I know it was a shock for you all.
[11:47] sxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: So grateful!
[11:48] mxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: oh that is just wonderful
[11:48] Jxxxxx Dxxxxxxx: Read the attached notecard guys. Remember the procedure from before. Please be sure to follow all the instructions via the notecard for the exchange xx
[11:49] Lxxxxxxxx Fxxxxxx: in tears of greatfullness of you always so kindness to all ..what a kind beyond kind thing to do thank you xoxox lady
[11:50] Lxxxx Axxxxxxx: I hope in the future we can just have these sets as buyable options :/ i suck with gachas
[11:51] Axxxxx Cxxxxxxx: Did you see that SL will be banning gachas?
[11:52] Lxxxx Axxxxxxx: Yes.
[11:52] Jxxxxx Dxxxxxxx: this is the gacha exchange offered again for existing items you have in your inventory already folks !!! The gachas themselves will NOT be returning to store so we are offering the exchange from no copy to copy versions as we did before :)
[11:52] Apple Pancake: Just to note the gachas won't be returning, if you have any no copy gacha items or collections, we have reopened our exchange programme so you can trade them in for copy/mod versions
[11:53] Apple Pancake: Yes :]
[11:53] ixxxxx Rxxxxxxx: to buy whole sets is extremly expensive! as they sell them now for 4000k+ ,not many would afford that!
[11:53] Jxxxxx Dxxxxxxx: Oops sorry boss.. heheh
[11:53] sxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Thank you AP ♥
[11:54] Apple Pancake: You can exchange single items or incomplete sets, whatever you have and want back in copy/mod
[11:55] Apple Pancake: If you have duplicates, send them to friends to exchange them so they can enjoy it too. Thoughts ^^
[11:59] pxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: good to know ^^
[12:05] Bxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: ♥
[12:11] Lxxxx Axxxxxxx: Can the gacha sets be re-released as non-gacha items? I would rather just buy the whole set. I'll pay for it @Apple
[12:15] KKxxx Ixxxxxxxx: I would pay also for the whole sets, would love that more.
[12:15] Lxxxx Axxxxxxx: Yesss. The demand is there please make it real!
[12:18] Apple Pancake: I get requests about it I personally feel a way about changing the terms of sale after the fact. I don't in any way want anyone who bought the gacha when it was in gacha form to feel like they were duped if it were sold as a mod/copy collection
[12:18] sxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: ♥
[12:18] Apple Pancake: I know it would be popular I just can't align myself with it. I'm sorry :[
[12:19] cxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: So...if I've bought gachas in the past.....what do I do now? *easily confused and late to the party*
[12:19] cxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: nevermind! lol
[12:19] Apple Pancake: If you own any Apple Fall gacha items as mod/trans, you can box them up and send them to Elvi for mod/copy versions 1:1
[12:19] cxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: *as I finally read the notecard*
[12:20] cxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: thank you! that's wonderful. I didn't even know there was a swap in Feb.
[12:23] Krxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Apple Fall is my favorite furniture store ever
[12:25] Lxxxx Axxxxxxx: So... these sets will never be purchaseable sets.
[12:25] Lxxxx Axxxxxxx: -_- wish gachas never existed
[12:26] Sxxxxxxxx Bxxxxxxxx: if you're lucky enough to find apple fall gacha in the mp or at a gacha yardsale, you can trade-in for a mod/copy, but that's about it
[12:26] Sxxxxxxxx Bxxxxxxxx: to clarify*
[12:29] Sxxxx Bxxxxxx: Is it possible to trade the English Folly for copy?
[12:30] Axxxx Rxxxxxxx: if it was a gatcha, you will be able to trade it in for copy/mod
[12:31] Apple Pancake: Shopping habits have changed in SL and it's one of the things I picked up on amongst many other things which led me to originally discontinue gachas as-is in 2019. They are what they are now, but I am thinking of some concepts to try and bridge that gap that some of you recent joiners may be experiencing
[12:33] Sxxxx Bxxxxxx: How do I go about swapping?
[12:39] Lxxxx Axxxxxxx: I may have to attempt these machines before they vanish but knowing my luck I will end up with 87 of the same 3 items
[12:40] Axxxx Lxxxxxxxx: :D
[12:40] Axxxx Lxxxxxxxx: you're not wrong.....
[12:40] Lxxxx Axxxxxxx: That's why I avoid them in the first place
[12:40] Axxxx Lxxxxxxxx: same
[12:41] jxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: They must have been some Gachas
[12:41] Lxxxx Axxxxxxx: I see a lot of stores worried that they will lose customers by not making gachas. But look at apple, there hasn't been gachas for years at apple fall and do we not all flood the store for every release?
[12:42] jxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: you know if it is a complete set, something you can turn key a room with, 4K isn't that bad.
[12:43] Lxxxx Axxxxxxx: huh?
[12:43] jxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I know I've dumped over 6K in some rooms
[12:43] jxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I was talking about 4K gacha sets
[12:43] jxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: as a collection
[12:43] jxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: (cost in Lindens)
[12:44] jxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: not that I would ever gamble with a gacha.
[14:36] lxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Does anyone know where the most expensive clothing store is? Im just bored and curious to see heheh
[14:37] Wxxxxxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: im pretty sure it isnt at Apple Falls...
[14:37] rxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: not something we here in a furniture store would know about lol
[14:38] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: honestly i do not know :) they are all pretty even
[14:38] Wxxxxxxxxxx Sxxxxxx: [clicked for non AF related chat]
[14:38] oxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: look at market place
[14:38] txxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: the most expensive clothes on SL are the good male's stories because they are so few ;)
[14:38] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: you are no doubt right there Pharaoh :)
[14:39] Sxxxxxxxx Bxxxxxxxx: depends on whether it's "value for money" or those mega packs I hear so much about
[14:40] txxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: women's good stores are many stores, so there is a price competition .. but men's are less than a hand
[14:41] Sxxxxxxxx Bxxxxxxxx: if you say so~
[14:41] txxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i am not talking about full packs .. a one color shirt for men in stores starts with 350 Ls
[14:42] txxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: plus, we have NO gifts nor sales .... haha
[14:42] Sxxxxxxxx Bxxxxxxxx: sales are your friend :3 have gotten some good deals for my male partner for 50L
[14:43] Txxxx Dxxxxxx: Use the MP they have filters that deal with price, try there they might can help
[14:43] txxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: would love to know from where *rests a hand on your shoulder*
[14:44] xxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i can photoshop 'supreme' on a plain white tee, and sell it to you for 3000L is you like :P
[14:44] Jxxxxx Dxxxxxxx: Maybe take that chat to private folks please :) This is Apple Fall chat after all {heart}
[14:44] Sxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: do we know the reason? seems like it's because it's unknown, like a gambling thing...?
[14:44] Sxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: ohhhh sorry
[14:44] txxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i do that all the time Tru, but not good stuff .. i am so picky and for a good texture, a good fit
[14:44] Sxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: wrong convo
[14:45] txxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: and i was simply comparing between men's and women's market in general
[14:46] txxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: LOL @ Holloe ... why you don't give me 10% of the 3k and i will announce in other groups .. lol
[14:46] xxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: lol
[14:47] xxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i'll just photoshop you announcing it and keep the full 100% :P
[14:47] txxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: sorry Jessie ... it started that Apple fall is one of the good stores ;)
[14:47] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: LOL you guys are too funny :D did you all see the Notice that just went out ? if you missed the trade in last time for Gacha's of Apple Fall , [Exxx] is offering that service again !!!
[14:47] sxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: and clothing is related how to Apple fall? I mean, he is a good looking avatar, so maybe he is interested in a new style
[14:47] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: so if you have any that you want to turned into copy items make sure to Grab the Notecard
[14:48] sxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: thanks for the update, Pilar.
[14:48] Sxxxxx Exxxxx: oh... we can exchange for copy versions of our gachas?
[14:48] Jxxxxx Dxxxxxxx: indeed you can [Sxxxxx] ;)
[14:48] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: yes :D please see Notices and grab the Notecard for instructions
[14:49] Sxxxxx Exxxxx: awesome....
[14:49] xxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: thats very useful, i always end up deleting things by accident
[14:49] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: i have been known to do that a time or two , [Hxxxxx]
[14:50] xxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: usually when changing my house or decor
[14:50] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: same
[14:51] Sxxxxx Exxxxx: i use my gachas in decoration/ interior design.. this is a boon for me.. also.. I spend way too much on gachas...
[14:51] xxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: a 'this is no copy' warning would be useful, not sure if theres a setting to add that
[14:51] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: there is if you are deleting something normally get a pop up :D
[14:53] Exxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I think that gacha is a great scam, it's good that SL wants to liquidate it
[14:53] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: and we will not comment on that further :D thank you so much
[14:55] Hxxxxx Lxxxxxxxxxx: >:(
[14:56] sxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: lol, HAL - you are the first person who came to mind when I read the gacha notecard! :)
[14:57] sxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: SL'S Gacha queen
[14:57] Hxxxxx Lxxxxxxxxxx: I don't really have much to say at the moment to be honest.
[14:57] Hxxxxx Lxxxxxxxxxx: 3 years of building it up
[14:57] Hxxxxx Lxxxxxxxxxx: I just feel numb.
[14:59] Fxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I'm sorry [Hxx]. ♥
[15:01] Hxxxxx Lxxxxxxxxxx: Its not me I feel bad for! I furnish newbie homes for free with my stock, it was my favorite hobby.
[15:02] Fxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I know. You have offered me before. Fan smiles.
[15:09] dxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: what is going on with gachas?
[15:09] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: Mr Apple and [Exxx] have opened up the exchanges again for those that missed it :)) you can turn your no copy AF ones into copy
[15:10] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: there is a notice in group with a NC attached :) make sure to grab the NC for information
[15:10] dxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: :O
[15:10] dxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: ty pilar for the info ♥
[15:12] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: you are most welcome Heather ♥
[15:14] exxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: thats why i said do a pic
[15:15] exxxxxxxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: you dont need much skills
[15:16] Lxxxx Axxxxxxx: so where are the gacha machines that are out for a limited time?
[15:16] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: there are none out :))
[15:17] Lxxxx Axxxxxxx: I saw it in the notice that they would be-
[15:17] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: for a limited time you can trade in what you have if you missed the last trade in :))
[15:17] Lxxxx Axxxxxxx: Oh. I didn't even get to play them last time when they were out. welp
[15:17] Lxxxx Axxxxxxx: guess it'll be some apple stuff i don't have
[15:24] Lxxxx Axxxxxxx: also how do we know if we are up to date everything apple. I think i have the newest release... is flickr or instagram the way to go
[15:26] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: personally i follow flickr :)) https://www.flickr.com/photos/80288053@N02/page1
[15:26] Sxxxxxxx Bxxxxxxx: Does anyone know if the Gatekeeper's Lodge is part of the approved tradables?
[15:26] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: that will have the latest releases :) also at the store the floor you land on has all the newest releases :))
[15:27] Cxxxx Dxxxxxxx personally follows Flickr
[15:27] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: yes [Sxxxxxx] :)) it is on the NC and exchangeable
[15:27] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: lol [Cxxxx] !
[15:27] Sxxxxxxx Bxxxxxxx: yay thank you :D
[15:27] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: grab the attached NC from notices :D has the list you can do
[15:28] Sxxxxxxx Bxxxxxxx: i missed the first time you guys did this so i was excited when you said you were doing it again
[15:28] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: yayyy for you :D
[15:28] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: make sure to grab the NC so you know the process of how :D
[15:28] Sxxxxxxx Bxxxxxxx: yep :D
[15:43] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: also if you are on our Discord :D [Exxxx] has opened a room up for all of you that are still looking to trade to complete your collections :)) you can't sell it in but certainly trade :))
[16:16] Pxxxx Vxxxxxxx: wow i just discovered teh out door and garden center - hadn't been here before
[16:17] Pxxxx Vxxxxxxx: there are a couple things i want to buy but don't have price tags
[16:17] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: say it isn't so [Pxxx] !! i am surprised !!
[16:17] Hxxxxx Hxxxxxxx: right click and see if they're the gift items.
[16:17] Sxxxxxxxx Bxxxxxxxx: bless your cotton socks ^^ ... maybe it's not rezzed yet?
[16:18] Bxxxxxxx Cxxxxxx: There are some freebies up there
[16:18] Pxxxx Vxxxxxxx: Apple Fall Large Terracotta Urn
[16:18] Pxxxx Vxxxxxxx: Apple Fall Olive and Daisy Planter
[16:18] Pxxxx Vxxxxxxx: IKR [Pxxxx] - i have most everything
[16:19] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: the Terracotta Urn is on MP for 75L
[16:19] Pxxxx Vxxxxxxx: oh i just found it here
[16:19] sxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: We're so spoiled!
[16:20] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: i know you do [Pxxx] ! that is why i was surprised you hadn't been out there :))
[16:20] Pxxxx Vxxxxxxx: last time i was in the garden was when the store was on ground level
[16:20] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: ahhh before the revamp :D
[16:21] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: oh yes and remember it is Monday Perk Day :D make sure to visit the store
[16:23] Pxxxx Vxxxxxxx: psst. pilar i found the olice and daisy planter - it doesn't have a group discount
[16:23] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: the ones that dont have a group discount normally refund you what it would be :D
[16:24] Pxxxx Vxxxxxxx: ahh - well it did very good
[16:34] kxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: can i have telport to garden centre
[16:35] Pxxxx Vxxxxxxx: walk straight back from the landing point in the store
[16:35] Pxxxx Vxxxxxxx: and walk out the door you will be magically transported there
[16:35] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: walk through the door at the landpoint :D
[16:38] kxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: did u say it was free
[16:42] kxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: i can make all this stuff
[16:42] sxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx grins
[16:43] sxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: I'd love to see your work, [Axxxxxxxx]
[16:43] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: please discuss anything like that in IM
[16:44] sxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: My apologies, [Pxxxx] ♥
[16:44] kxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: im incapable of makin a store
[16:44] Pxxxx Rxxxxxx: no worries [Sxxxx] :))
[16:44] sxxxxxxxx Rxxxxxxx: Ty so much ♥