tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2135301473915671680.post5686426717217088571..comments2023-12-14T18:17:52.957-08:00Comments on The Train Wreck Love Life: there's a strange exhilaration in such total detestation; it's so pure, so strong!Emilly Orrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07245643246821826101noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2135301473915671680.post-3908099503426727802010-07-02T15:43:54.690-07:002010-07-02T15:43:54.690-07:00Prokovy,
I agree with your layout, but I don'...Prokovy,<br /><br />I agree with your layout, but I don't agree with your conclusion. I tracked this the way it did not because I'm ridiculing the concept of representative democracy--I'm not. But representative democracy, in my opinion, <i>only</i> works when there are real-world stakes. While there may be ancillary stakes (emotional, mental, psychological) on the grid, and economic stakes for merchants and landowners, the breakdown <i>still</i> returns to: this is the net. <br /><br />And there is little representative democracy, if our existence starts and ends virtually. As virtual citizens, we can have input; but the decisions are not <i>up</i> to us. We aren't shareholders, though granted, we are paying in.<br /><br />The tea party concept? Wouldn't work. Because ultimately, if rebellion is declared, Linden Labs can point us to the door and pull the plug. And believe me, rebellions have happened in the past, most notably during the OpenSpace debacle. Dame CoyoteAngel Dimsum set all her sims on <i>fire</i>, and left them that way for weeks. <br /><br />And nothing changed. Nothing <i>will</i>, unless the Lindens decide on their own to change things. We can have <i>influence;</i> but what we cannot have, what we <i>do</i> not have, is sway.Emilly Orrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07245643246821826101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2135301473915671680.post-63225674113030472872010-07-02T14:14:12.410-07:002010-07-02T14:14:12.410-07:00Silly stuff as usual. All those diverse groups com...Silly stuff as usual. All those diverse groups come down to one thing:<br /><br />o directly own land ("rent a simulator from Linden lab")<br /><br />or<br /><br />o don't directly own land ("don't rent a simulator from Linden Lab")<br /><br />end of story.<br /><br />Representative democracy in liberal democratic states like the U.S. or the UK are not based on socialistic (or fascistic) identity politics like "furries over here, Neko Caledonian cats over there".<br /><br />It's based on geography and population. In SL, I propose, to get started having a constituent assembly, to have only landowners. Those who have other interest groups who want to organize on the basis of Marxist identity politics or fascistic corporativist politics (like CDS ultimately turned out to be) are welcome to do so but I'd ignore them. Land ownership is a good simple way to be inclusive of pretty much anybody with a stake in SL.<br /><br />Technocommunists *hate* representative democracy because it runs straight against their own illegitimate power base which is essentially the power of weaponry -- code. Not consent of the government and not stake (land).<br /><br />So that's why they try to ridicule it and claim democracy will dissolve into a million interest groups or try to pillory the small holders concept as greedy land barons blah blah. I'm for ignoring them and start an assembly with landowners. No renters, estate mangers, etc. Must own 512 mainland or more, or be original and full owner of a private island or homestead. That way all the CDS/Islamic caliphate loafers and hangers-on would have to confront the fact that they are all tenants to one landlord anyway, whatever their silly structures on top of that.<br /><br />One landowners organizer on their various single issues, then they can negotiate with others like no-payment-on-file sandboxers or Xstreet-only-merchants or whatever constituencies make sense for a parliament of such parties.<br /><br />I don't worry about how you "can't" have democracy in a company town. People in the colony of America said that too, until there was a tea party. And so on. No such thing as "can't" when it comes to more power to the people and their legitimate interests againt tyrants.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17462957723334149373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2135301473915671680.post-60422954608424736842010-07-01T14:24:39.310-07:002010-07-01T14:24:39.310-07:00Miss Jameson,
"Almost", yes. I agree. A...Miss Jameson,<br /><br />"Almost", yes. I agree. And it obviously is coming from someone who truly hasn't thought things through on any level.Emilly Orrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07245643246821826101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2135301473915671680.post-28025639198528638822010-07-01T14:24:09.415-07:002010-07-01T14:24:09.415-07:00Mr. Telling,
And a good turn of phrase in return....Mr. Telling,<br /><br />And a good turn of phrase in return. <br /><br />But it still baffles me that this call is raised on the grid--and off--at <i>all</i>. Philip Rosedale did not return to Philip Linden to be the president of SL. He returned to be the <i>pro tem</i> CEO of Linden Labs.<br /><br />SL is the <i>product;</i> why don't people get that?Emilly Orrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07245643246821826101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2135301473915671680.post-16131233744941071642010-07-01T11:06:58.599-07:002010-07-01T11:06:58.599-07:00Indeed, the proposal is almost refreshing in its n...Indeed, the proposal is almost refreshing in its naivete. Almost.Rhianon Jamesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13627163137265856251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2135301473915671680.post-66485082032911017202010-07-01T08:05:47.839-07:002010-07-01T08:05:47.839-07:00It is, of course, a preposterous proposal, and the...It is, of course, a preposterous proposal, and the ways in which it's preposterous are many... but, as the phrase goes, "consider the source".<br /><br /><i>We just hang out and swing.</i><br /><br />Truer words about SL are rarely spoken so concisely... and as we all know, "It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing."Lalo Tellinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07711076861284942835noreply@blogger.com