tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2135301473915671680.post4848224388544543311..comments2023-12-14T18:17:52.957-08:00Comments on The Train Wreck Love Life: as the squirrel made laps inside her dress, she began to cry and then to confessEmilly Orrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07245643246821826101noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2135301473915671680.post-53042007135954645782009-06-17T20:03:58.936-07:002009-06-17T20:03:58.936-07:00If it helps, I don't agree with general world ...If it helps, I don't agree with general world policy on this. I think it's utterly ludicrous that people are getting arrested for owning virtual depictions of Japanese manga characters that may or may not depict <i>child-aged,</i> child-sized figures. I see nothing wrong--in an acknowledged eighteen-and-over game, where every player is <i>known</i> to be an adult--of people experimenting with being different things. Playing younger ages is not so much different, to my thinking, than walking around dead, or walking around furry, depending on your place in the fetish spectrum.<br /><br />But I can see the Labs' point on this one, even if I don't agree with it--they're scared to death that something else is going to happen, while at the same time trying to protect their residents, <i>and</i> they don't have the best track record for logical thinking in the first place. Ban everything? Ban nothing but tell people they need to behave? They're trying to find the middle ground. No wonder they're struggling.<br /><br />(Though yes, I used to dance, in several clubs; while I will never say kid avs were a majority, those that did come in were memorable...<i>very</i> young in presentation...and creepy beyond all reason.)Emilly Orrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07245643246821826101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2135301473915671680.post-82263153259513799702009-06-17T19:39:11.664-07:002009-06-17T19:39:11.664-07:00Yep, general agreement. Except that I haven't...Yep, general agreement. Except that I haven't myself seen the kid AVs standing and not saying anything in a strip club. They should be summarily ejected and banned; solves the problem easily. :) I did once see a... something, a short AV wearing only a diaper and big black wings and I think maybe horns or something, walking around in Toby's Juke Joint and not saying anything or doing anything comprehensible. He vanished quickly (as soon as any staff noticed him, I think). The naked full-sized AVs with freenises sticking out saying disgusting things to all the women on a different day unfortunately lasted longer, because it took awhile for anyone to find a staff member.<br /><br />Creeps and weirdos come in all sizes; the kid AVs that I've happened to see have been somewhat less weird I'd say on average than the average full-size one. :) The only thing, to my mind, that makes the kid AVs special or more worrying is the RL sex-panic that we're currently in.<br /><br />And you've got me rethinking just what I think about that...Dale Innishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02771522211082181738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2135301473915671680.post-39890444119776219132009-06-17T13:49:29.364-07:002009-06-17T13:49:29.364-07:00Dale: I remember the Alphaville Herald had a wonde...Dale: I remember the Alphaville Herald had a <a href="http://www.secondlifeherald.com/slh/2007/05/german_media_no.html" rel="nofollow">wonderfully sarcastic reply</a> on the issue, which yes, did feature <i>actual</i> virtual child sex; but at this point, the atmosphere of paranoia has pervaded to the point where even a child standing <i>next</i> to an adult was viewed with suspicion and rejection at SL5B (noted above).<br /><br />More to the point, though, I'm not talking about SL kids who walk in and roleplay a freak-out because they're seeing things they shouldn't; I'm talking about SL kids who come in, and just...<i>stand</i> there. When asked politely to leave, they make no answer. When told they will be bounced, they just <i>stand there</i>.<br /><br />Watching strippers.<br /><br />It's creepy as hell and I've seen it more than once, and grasping the concept that it's an adult behind the screen does not <i>help</i> with the creep factor in the least.<br /><br />I mean, kid running in to a strip club, throwing water balloons, giggling and running out--hells, that at least I'd understand. But there is that minority of folks who play SL kids who don't do that.<br /><br />See, me, I'm not a poster girl for the moral brigade in any world; but when people stand up and complain in RL about the adult shop that went in five miles from the grade school, we can dismiss that as the puerile whining it is, because no one gets in who's not age-verified in RL, so to speak.<br /><br />But in SL? Anyone can get into ANY structure. If the structure has nothing clickable to sit on, and people can rez prims, rez one out, sit on it, move it into the building. If you can't rez things, but you can use scripts, there are devices that let you teleport from point to point easily. There's no workable means to keep people out of a place unless you completely lock it down.<br /><br />And even <i>if</i> you completely lock it down, people can still <i>cam</i> in, if they're motivated. And what you can see, you can photograph.<br /><br />Me, I'd rather play with adults; I freely admit this. And the adult continent has come this far, it won't go away, I get that. But it's still a big worry. An entire continent of big worry.<br /><br />Oh, and I can tell you about the post titles without ruining the mystery--they're all song lyrics. Every title I've ever posted is a song lyric from somewhere. :)Emilly Orrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07245643246821826101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2135301473915671680.post-3079591282117633412009-06-17T13:02:39.632-07:002009-06-17T13:02:39.632-07:00See, and that's part of the whole problem--tha...See, and that's part of the whole problem--that art piece (drawn by Gryffin Hax, more info found <a href="http://caledonstroll.blogspot.com/2008/06/caledon-strand-magazine-launches.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>) was notable, and worthy of enclosure in the Caledon SL5B build, <i>because</i> it was the first magazine ever published focusing exclusively on Caledon.<br /><br />Now we have three or four of them, depending on the day and publishing interest, and other articles written, and many more sims just over this past year; but that was the first. And that was the cover of the first issue.<br /><br />It was all about the diversity of <i>experience;</i> a doll, a construct, a Tiny otter, a lady adventurer, and an alien who's not so much interested in conquering Caledon, as embracing it. What brings them all together in one place? A love for shared history, whatever they make of it, and Desmond Shang.<br /><br />We all thought it was a <i>perfect</i> image to represent us; the Labs only saw the "child" with "adults" and freaked out. And that, at the time, even now, just baffles the hell out of me.Emilly Orrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07245643246821826101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2135301473915671680.post-58309484350624258642009-06-17T11:43:20.735-07:002009-06-17T11:43:20.735-07:00An' thanks for nothin', I just blew an hou...An' thanks for nothin', I just blew an hour reading Darths an' Droids! :)<br /><br />(An' where do you get your post titles? No wait don't tell me, it would spoil the mystery. But...!)Dale Innishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02771522211082181738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2135301473915671680.post-34698796171414553372009-06-17T11:22:26.273-07:002009-06-17T11:22:26.273-07:00Yeah, I think PG is the "if you come onto thi...Yeah, I think PG is the "if you come onto this land, you give up all rights to free expression of any kind" rating. Which is a fine rating to have, I suppose; I just wouldn't use it myself. (IJNMK, haha.)<br /><br />I do think that trying to shield all child AVs (or even all actual children) from ever hearing anyone talk about sex or violence or drugs would be batshit crazy. Which doesn't necessarily mean that the Lab wouldn't do it of course; I just haven't heard it suggested. <br /><br />Requiring that all child AVs stay on PG land would basically have that effect, but (maybe surprisingly) I don't remember hearing that suggested either. Yet?<br /><br />I've run around as a kid a few times. It was fun, but in the end didn't really captivate me. I certainly didn't expect to be coddled when I was being a kid. If I'd snuck into a strip club to throw water-balloons at the dancers or something (oooh, tempting thought), I wouldn't have been offended if the proprietor had thrown me out. That would even have been part of the fun. :)<br /><br />(Yeah, so maybe I role-play a *bad* kid.)<br /><br />Some people do find playing a kid AV captivating, and I'd like the world to make that easy and rewarding for them. (I'd like the world to make anything that anyone wants to do that doesn't hurt anyone else easy and rewarding.) I haven't noticed actual kid AV people asking to be coddled; it's more other people with particular notions about children expecting that they should be coddled, or that they must be expecting to be.<br /><br />If someone in a kid AV says "i see the naughty pitcher an' i close my eyes tight!", I think they're roleplaying, not being genuinely offended and wanting you to take the picture away. I've never seen an actual kid AV complain to someone that there was non-kid-appropriate content somewhere. Maybe I've just been lucky, I dunno.<br /><br />"Dreaming unrealistic moment: it would have been so much better if they'd just made a PG continent, and had public art, college campuses, and industrial parks, gardens, flowers, trees, wonderful builds with beautiful ideas..." Seconded whole-heartedly; that would clearly have been the right thing to do, and I really wish I knew why they didn't do it. Provide a nice safe environment for the squeamish, and leave the rest of us alone.<br /><br />Yeah, people get completely crazy about this stuff, and that thing with the Caledon image is a really good example. Utter lunacy. <br /><br />And the "ticking time-bomb" image for kid AVs on Adult land is an intriguing one. You may actually get me to change my mind. :) How would I feel if I had a sex club on Zindra, and the private dwelling next door was having a non-sexual outdoor party with kid AVs running around, knowing that if one of them wandered over near my club (or even just stood in the wrong place in their own yard), some snoop with a camera could make an image that would get my club branded as a pedo joint? I would not be happy.<br /><br />And that's so sad, because it wouldn't be the fault of anyone actually involved: the sex club, the kid AVs, the people throwing the party. It would be that person with the camera. Sigh!<br /><br />I think I need to get back to the blowing-things-up posts. :)Dale Innishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02771522211082181738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2135301473915671680.post-18023935272484462512009-06-17T10:56:52.615-07:002009-06-17T10:56:52.615-07:00Ahh, that was it, the doll. Sorry, I remembered th...Ahh, that was it, the doll. Sorry, I remembered the avatar was short, forgot about the doll part. Doh!Sphynx Soleilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08384124029613452884noreply@blogger.com